Many North Carolina Sheriff’s Refuse To Stop Indoor Church Services

Many Sheriff’s Offices across the country are slowly starting to say they will no longer enforce many of the Bat Soup Virus restrictions. Especially when it comes to church services

More sheriffs plan to stand down and allow indoor religious services

Johnston County Sheriff Steve Bizzell said his deputies won’t “interfere or prevent churchgoers to peaceably assemble and exercise their constitutional right to freely worship.”

The North Carolina Sheriff’s Association along with many other sheriffs departments are siding with those who want indoor services.

Father Peter of Saint Ann Catholic Church said, “People are stressed and they need the churches. They need this encouragement.”

The state plan to resume business and social activities during the pandemic suggests that churches hold outdoor worship services or limit services to 10 people at an indoor service for now, but law enforcement officials, ministers and others have been pushing back against that restriction in recent days, noting retailers can have dozens and sometimes hundreds of people inside their stores.

You also have the Nash County and Halifax County Sheriff’s department weighing in, saying they won’t bust anyone over this. Of course, that’s only 3 out of 100 counties, but, outside the urban area counties, the ones with cities like Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, Charlotte, Greensboro, and a few others, you can bet the sheriff’s were already ignoring the order

Public heath experts say there is evidence that stationary activities indoors have a higher likelihood of spreading coronavirus.

Yet, many businesses that have been open the whole time have this happening. People sit in waiting areas waiting for their cars to be done. We have chairs blocked off to keep people separate, but, they can sit there for hours. Customers can sit in front of us for an hour or more negotiating then doing paperwork then waiting for finance.

At Saint Ann, they’ve been holding outdoor Mass. But Father Peter believes it should be up to a church’s discretion to decide what to do moving forward. “I really think churches can regulate just as regular businesses can regulate the safety of its people,” he added.

I know some places work hard to clean, such as the carts at the grocery stores and the check out aisles. We have a person that comes in and sprays. However, you can’t get everything. And I can be there are some places that aren’t doing much of anything that are open. Think they clean the gas pumps?

Within hours of Bizzell declaring that his office wouldn’t stop churches from holding indoor services in violation of the statewide stay-at-home order, Rev. Steve Grice, pastor of New Life Baptist Church in Smithfield, said his congregation will worship indoors on Sunday.

“If 400 people can meet at Lowe’s then the few of us can meet at church Sunday morning,” Grice said. “We have plenty of room to practice social distancing.”

I was in Dick’s Sporting Goods yesterday seeing if a bike was available (tired of going for a long walk. No bikes. Didn’t expect any, but, took a shot). There weren’t many people, but, they had a sign saying 278 people were allowed. If there were 100 customers in there it would have been jammed in the aisles. Go to the supermarket and people are getting within a foot of each other all the time.

Anyhow, you can bet this same thing is starting to happen in Republican states and counties across the country. And in California

(Breitbart) Fresno County Sheriff Margaret Mims said Tuesday that she would not be able to enforce Gov. Gavin Newsom’s stay-at-home orders because she was too busy re-arresting accused criminals set free under the state’s new “zero-dollar bail” policy. (snip)

Carey asked her: “I’ve heard multiple sheriffs around the nation state they will not enforce their governors’ shelter-in-place orders. Is that your position?

“That is my position. We do not stop the public to find out what they’re doing when they’re not sheltering in place. We don’t ask those questions, we don’t ask if they’re ‘essential’. We’ve got our hands full trying to re-arrest people that are released due to zero-dollar bail. So we’ve got other things that are on our mind that are more important than stopping normally law-abiding citizens.”

You’ll surely see this more over the next few weeks to months.

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15 Responses to “Many North Carolina Sheriff’s Refuse To Stop Indoor Church Services”

  1. Nighthawk says:

    Great!! Now, every other sheriff in every other county in every state needs to refuse to follow these unlawful orders. Businesses need to open as normal. Every business is essential to someone and for the government to say otherwise is tyranny.

    • Kye says:

      You called it Nighthawk. The very idea that our government or government officials (ALL Democommies you note) would label American citizens as “non-essential” and therefore dispensable makes me want to vomit. These are the same leftist pigs that think every illegal alien from shithole countries are entitled to the largess of America which is produced by these same non-essential people.

      We have reached the point of mass resistance and even perhaps war. The leftists in charge and their followers will not stop until we are a police state. We have irreconcilable differences with the tyrannical leftists who propose such rubbish and we need to eliminate them before they eliminate us. Either by separation or civil war.

      Trump 22020 Keep the commies out before they force war.

    • gitarcarver says:

      Great!! Now, every other sheriff in every other county in every state needs to refuse to follow these unlawful orders.

      The orders themselves are legal.

      What is questioned is the depth and breadth of the orders.

      Courts that have overturned the orders or portions of the orders have all said that the issuance of such orders are legal, but some parts of the order may not be.

      • Kye says:

        If “courts” say these orders are legal then those judges should be immediately thrown out of office and run out of town on a rail. Governors and mayors have no authority to counter the US Constitution. One needn’t be a fukin’ lawyer to know that.

        • gitarcarver says:

          Governors and mayors have no authority to counter the US Constitution.

          Actually, they do. The government has the right to protect the general welfare of the people. That includes acts taken in the time of pandemics.

          As for not needing to be a lawyer, tell that to the US Supreme Court in the case of Jacobson v. Massachusetts :: 197 US 11 (1905) which ruled on the issue of orders during pandemics and epidemics and found the government does have the authority.

          Like it or not, no right enumerated in the Constitution or otherwise is an absolute. It cannot be for society to function. The First Amendment allows for time, place and manner restrictions. Virgins cannot be sacrificed in the name of religion. Your right to bear arms does not extend to my property if I so choose.

          There is always a balancing act between the rights of people. James Madison wrote about that balance and other founding fathers understood that principle.

          It is a shame that for some, the depth of understanding of what rights are, how rights interact and are balanced in a society is as deep as a puddle of water on a sidewalk.

  2. Kye says:

    The Elwoodian strategy for tyranny and death:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/05/police_state_dry_run_a_huge_success.html

    That is an absolutely fabulous article expressing exactly how I think of this entire situation forced on the American people by the Red Chinese and propagandized here by the Blue State Dictators, the lying media and the information keepers like Google and Facebook and YouTube. All LIARS and all cut from the same cloth as our resident communist Elwood. It’s time for these monsters to pay the price of Treason.

    Trump 2020 America for Americans not Red Chinese.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      Kye,

      The punishment for Treason is execution. Is that what you recommend for Dem governors, the media, Google, Facebook and YouTube and all citizens who disagree with you and tRump?

      Let us remind you that Republicans control the White House, the DOJ, the military, the Senate, the Supreme Court, 26 governorships and 30 state legislatures. The majority of federal judges have been appointed by Republican presidents.

      You hate liberal ideology and wish death on liberals, and tRump is your man for the job.

      tRump abdicated responsibility for the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic and left it up to state governors and local leaders to protect their citizens. Every state (including red states) placed some level of restrictions on their citizens.

      Meanwhile, over 88,000 Americans have died from SARS-CoV-2 infections in the past 3 1/2 months.

      • Kye says:

        You and your Nazi cohorts have murdered thousands of elderly Americans by herding them (as Nazi’s are apt to do) not into boxcars but into homes so they could be infected and die. You have labeled working Americans “non-essential” and thrown them out on the street to die. You have labeled businesses “non-essential” also and closed them down by force and arrested any person opening in disregard of the local Reichfurer’s order. You have called Trump a raaaaacist when he closed travel from Red China then later claimed he didn’t act fast enough while you fags were waiving phony impeachment papers in the air Trump wast taking steps BASED ON WHAT WE KNEW AT THE TIME to head off this virus.

        No one could have done more to react to this virus than Trump because nobody could have known more than he at the time he knew it. He had al of your touted “experts” like Fauci directing him as he should have and as anyone else would have. Trump, like you is not a doctor but unlike your Nazi friends in state houses he is a businessmen and knows you don’t close down every small business because of a fukin’ flu.

        BTW, if you believe 88,000 people in America have died FROM Red Chink Flu then not only are you a liar but a 100% idiot also. They have admitted they’ve been cooking the books. They are doing with Wuhan Flu what they do when they count election ballots…LIE!

        And here they are just for you Elwood, your lyin’ friends.
        https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ANHnlWVdqrM/Xr1ta0XBBmI/AAAAAAACR_U/kF9g7CPOcHQxpVZZSLt8giXxzmRSLsixwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/1%2B1%2B1%2B1%2Bdfgsdfgsdfgdfgdsfgdfg.png

      • formwiz says:

        Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

        The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.

        That seems to be what they’ve done and been doing for better than 50 years.

        Let us remind you that Republicans control the White House, the DOJ, the military, the Senate, the Supreme Court, 26 governorships and 30 state legislatures. The majority of federal judges have been appointed by Republican presidents.

        Then you should be very afraid (and you are, it’s easy to see). That little screed you laid out earlier There has been a simmering stupidity in America for the past several decades – which has reached a full boil. Stupidity is the GOP; the GOP is now the great bastion of stupidity in America. But don’t think your cult leaders are stupid, they know exactly what they’re doing. An evildoer such as tRump relies on the ignorance and stupidity of his followers to believe his lies and conspiracy tales says you want the country run by your betters and you think you’re going to be one of the gauleiters.

        Or so you think. You honestly the people you work for will trust you after you’ve betrayed your country?

        tRump abdicated responsibility for the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic and left it up to state governors and local leaders to protect their citizens. Every state (including red states) placed some level of restrictions on their citizens.

        No, he did exactly what the Constitution mandated. We are a Federal republic and he practiced federalism. Not his fault all your guys acted like a bunch of tin penny Hitlers. Not his fault you think like a Nazi, wanting der Fuhrer to take over and run everything.

        See where people in NY are calling it the Cuomo virus?

        Meanwhile, over 88,000 Americans have died from SARS-CoV-2 infections in the past 3 1/2 months.

        No, only about 660. But the turmoil is clearly the fault of your side.

      • gitarcarver says:

        The punishment for Treason is execution.

        Nope.

        18 U.S. Code § 2381. Treason

        Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

        I guess the left’s hatred extends to facts and the law these days.

        After all, all the left has is hate.

        • Elwood P. Dowd says:

          After all, all the gitarcarver has is hate.

          • formwiz says:

            And apparently all you have is nothin’.

          • gitarcarver says:

            After all, all the gitarcarver has is hate.

            Ouch. Such rapier wit from the person who said they would never respond to me again.

            The hate of the left makes them lie and be ignorant of facts.

            After all, all the left has is hate.

  3. Klemdadiddlehopper says:

    SOMETHING I PULLED FROM A WAPO ARTICLE DATED ABOUT A WEEK AGO. By Daniel Hemel
    Daniel Hemel is an assistant professor of law at the University of Chicago and a visiting professor at Stanford University law school.
    May 4, 2020 at 6:00 a.m. MDT

    I work at Smithfield Foods. I’m suing them over putting our lives at risk for your dinner. This is a link in the article I thought was interesting which shows how important it is to have protections for mom and pops all the way to Exxons and Amazons or else every company in America will be sued to extinction.

    Context….Trump signed a defense production act making meat processing of national import.

    Here’s what Tuesday’s order actually does. First, it declares that meat and poultry in the food supply chain fall under Section 101(b) of the Defense Production Act, a 1950 statute that has been invoked for hundreds of thousands of military purchases before. That, to be sure, is a dubious declaration: Section 101(b) applies only to “scarce and critical material essential to the national defense.” While Trump reportedly relies on steak, cheeseburgers and meatloaf for his own sustenance, our service members, law enforcement officers and front-line health workers could defend the nation just fine on dairy, eggs and protein-rich legumes.

    AND HERE FOLKS IS IN A NUTSHELL THE LEFTS ATTITUDE TOWARD YOU.

    Since farmers LEGUMES are rotting in the ground and Since they are destroying millions of chickens because of no way to get them to be processed, and since their is a scarcity of eggs…etc…etc.

    This EDUMACATED MAN…ahem…laughs and scoffs at Americans. You dont need to eat, or gather or do any FUKING THING unless we give you permission.

    In a nutshell this so sums up the lefts disdain for Americans.

    THEY HATE YOU!! All of YOU….Because most of them have now turned to communism and the collective is much more important than the individual even though they use the collective to SECURE POWER it is the individual that is the first to be destroyed once power is seized.

    Remember that folks when you begin starving. When your company collapses. When they repo your house and car. The LEFT DOES NOT CARE. That is nowhere more evident in passing a bill they know will never pass.

    IF THE LEFT CARED they would pass a BIPARTISAN BILL not a partisan bill meant to crush America under the weight a wish list of communist ideas for the now FREEDOMLESS AMERICA!

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