Ilhan Omar (Who’s Also A Jew Hater) Offers Silly Zero Waste Bill As Part Of Green New Deal

See, this could have been a decent bill. The idea is good, but, the positioning is eye rollingly idiotic

Scrap Collector: Rep. Ilhan Omar’s Zero Waste Act billed as ‘key part’ of Green New Deal

Hot on the heels of last month’s sweeping national plastic pollution proposal, there’s a new federal waste bill in town.

I missed that one. Must not have gotten much press. It is a little bit too big government, a bit too over the top, but, the idea is presented in a lucid, rational manner, because, yes, we do have too much plastic pollution, and people do not recycle. What the two Democrats, Sen Tom Udall and Rep Alan Lowenthall did not do was go beyond basic language about protecting the environment. Omar didn’t see the sane way they positioned it

The Zero Waste Act, introduced by Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn. as a “key part of the Green New Deal,” would provide up to $250 million in funding for “zero waste” initiatives — including organics recycling infrastructure, e-waste recycling or reuse, source reduction and market development.

“Our country generates over 250 million tons of trash each year. Right now, most of that trash does not get recycled or composted or reused. Instead, it ends up in landfills and incinerators, fueling our climate crisis and polluting the communities who live near these toxic sites,” Omar said during a press conference last week. “The only way to combat this crisis is to move to a ‘zero waste’ economy.”

The congresswoman framed waste as “an environmental justice issue,” noting that 80% of incinerators are located in low-income communities, communities of color and indigenous lands. In addition to presenting opportunities for economic growth and greenhouse gas reduction, waste diversion “protects communities from the health hazards associated with landfills and incinerators, such as toxic gases, pests, and air and water pollution.”

Zero waste is unobtainable at this time, but the idea of moving towards it is a good one. Consider “e-waste”, especially mobile phones. How many are just thrown in the garbage? Carriers and others should entice people to recycle them. So, good right? Right up to the “climate crisis”, “green new dea”, and environmental justice” moonbattery, which will cause people to dismiss this as a typical Modern Socialist bit of insanity to be ignored and fought against, because you know it will go way too far in its objectives. For instance, only those which a “living wage” are eligible for grants.

It’s a way to take a good idea and destroy it, because people like Omar are nuts.

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80 Responses to “Ilhan Omar (Who’s Also A Jew Hater) Offers Silly Zero Waste Bill As Part Of Green New Deal”

  1. Zachriel says:

    William Teach: Ilhan Omar (Who’s Also A Jew Hater)

    What evidence do you have that Omar hates Jews?

    • formwiz says:

      The latest tack by the Left – Baghdad Bunny it.

      Unfortunately, too many news items out there. Headlines

      Rep. Omar apologizes to Jewish groups for latest round of anti-Semitic tweets

      Ilhan Omar Condemned by Pelosi, Democratic Leaders for Using ‘Anti-Semitic Tropes’

      So, not only does he lie yet again, he’s getting ridiculous.

      • Zachriel says:

        formwiz (quoting): Rep. Omar apologizes to Jewish groups for latest round of anti-Semitic tweets

        So Omar acknowledged and directly apologized to Jewish groups for the hurt she caused by her words that included anti-Semitic tropes, and added that her allies shouldn’t defend her previous statements. That sounds like someone recognizing the humanity of the Jewish people.

        • formwiz says:

          So she still said it. And she still supports BDS.

          That sounds like someone recognizing the humanity of the Jewish people.

          No, it sounds like Jessuh Jackson wanting to still be a wheel in the Democrat party apologizing for being caught calling Gotham Hymietown.

          • Zachriel says:

            formwiz: So she still said it.

            And apologized, as she should. That’s not evidence that she hates the Jews, but evidence that she recognized the hurt and humanity of the Jewish people, the history of anti-Semitic tropes, as well as the ability to learn from her mistakes.

    • Doom and Gloom says:

      What evidence can you present that she does not given her penchant for slamming the jewish state and demanding a boycott of the nation.

      “Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel,” she tweeted in 2012.

      “When are we gonna decide or realize that terrorism is a reaction? It’s an ideology, it’s a means of things, it’s not an entity, it’s not a place, people. It’s a reaction to a situation,” Remember this one when you start screaming for guns to be taken away after the two shootings yesterday. You know those people were just reacting to the situation around them. Its just a reaction.

      “Yes,” she agreed. “What you’re insinuating is what nobody wants to face. Nobody wants to face how the actions of the other people that are involved in the world have contributed to the rise of the radicalization and the rise of terrorist acts.” The democrats fail to realize their acts are contributing to the rise of terrorist acts. The GOP are failing to realize they are contributing to the rise of ANTIFA a cowardly group who hits people over the head with bike locks wearing masks then run into the crowd and disappear.

      In short she is on to something. Civil war has been brewing. Trump is not responsible but rather the democrats are responsible for horrifying communist positions that are taking a free America to the precipice of despair by opening the borders and letting millions and millions flood into a nation already struggling to create jobs under democratic leadership. Once Trump was elected that changed. But electing a far left looney toon……….

      NO ELECTING BIDEN a moderate who will only cow tow to far left Ideaology is no different. Giving them any power in 2020 is tantamount to the utter collapse of the United States in the next dozen years. Once you set the ball rolling it is impossible to stop. Just look at Obamacare. What a joke. My healthcare sucks now which was always the plan. Now the fix is medicare for all which by its own will bankrupt America.

      Ilan Omar is a racist. Democrats are racist. Listen to warren in her debate in which she said Racist healthcare, Racist climate change, racist white people, racist this, racist that. Everything was racist. She said Racist &(&*($% so many times I cant even remember them all. Everything is a racist of course but a WOKE democrat who sits in shame at their own skin color within the minds of the Left.

      The democrats are driving their own anger and directing it at everyone and everything. Omar just hate Israel because of her heritage. Yet her overt racism is defended by a party that is bent on the Transformation(destruction) of America.

      Remember all that when AOC’s chief of staff said the green new deal is not about climate change it is about transforming the government. He basically wrote the thing. I think he should know what its intention was.

      TLDR: Omar said it best. “Nobody wants to face how the actions of the other people that are involved in the world have contributed to the rise of the radicalization and the rise of terrorist acts.” I submit that the actions of both sides are driven by the actions of the other. Tit for Tat. Right or wrong. Its how a country implodes and destroys itself.

      • Zachriel says:

        Doom and Gloom: What evidence can you present that she does not given her penchant for slamming the jewish state and demanding a boycott of the nation.

        Criticizing Israeli policy doesn’t necessarily make one anti-Semitic. Do you think that no one should criticize Israeli policy? Is everyone who criticizes Israel anti-Semitic?

  2. Kye says:

    She still supports BDS as do ALL leftist Dems. They are anti Semites of the first water Zach, are you one too? Max Blumenthal, spawn of Clinton crony Sidney J., proves that apostate Jews are the worst anti-Semites, and Bro-Fo Omar’s BDS antics exposed as a SHAM, when she “apologizes” she lies! That’s also a warning about the not-so-stealthy taqqiya jihad from within. But go ahead, side with the political structure that would have your head removed and your women made sex slaves. Be my guest.

    Why do so many contemporary Jews side with Mohammadans and communists? Have they not witnessed enough of their people murdered by both?

    • Zachriel says:

      Kye: She still supports BDS as do ALL leftist Dems.

      The vast majority of Democrats in the House voted recently to condemn BDS. Hence, per your definition, the vast majority of Democrats in the House are not “leftist”.

      Kye: They are anti Semites of the first water

      We asked for evidence of Omar’s anti-Semitism. Supporting non-violent means to oppose Israeli policy in the West Bank is not anti-Semitic in and of itself.

      Kye: Why do so many contemporary Jews side with Mohammadans and communists?

      When the facts jar against your preconceptions, that is, when experiencing cognitive dissonance, it would behoove you to reexamine your preconceptions.

      • Liljeffyatemypuppy says:

        </>There are several forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, the best known being taqiyya (the Shia name).  These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause of Islam – in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them. 
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      • formwiz says:

        Of course they’re Leftist, but they can’t afford to lose the Jewish vote.

        Jexit, you know.

        Of course, it’s anti-Semitic and we know she’s all mobbed up with Hamas.

        Ilhan Omar defends Palestinians after terrorists rain rockets on Israel.

        And that’s 2 lies for Zacherle.

        When the facts jar against your preconceptions, that is, when experiencing cognitive dissonance, it would behoove you to reexamine your preconceptions.

        And attempting to obfuscate the veracity of one’s opponent with verbiage of pompous and Brobdingnagian character makes one look the fool he is.

        • Zachriel says:

          formwiz: Of course they’re Leftist, but they can’t afford to lose the Jewish vote.

          But you just said that if they were leftists, they would support BDS.

          formwiz: Ilhan Omar defends Palestinians after terrorists rain rockets on Israel.

          Omar said, “How many more protesters must be shot, rockets must be fired, and little kids must be killed until the endless cycle of violence ends? The status quo of occupation and humanitarian crisis in Gaza is unsustainable. Only real justice can bring about security and lasting peace.” That’s hardly defending terrorists.

          formwiz: Of course, it’s anti-Semitic

          On what basis do you claim that advocating a boycott as a protest against Israeli policy is necessarily anti-Semitic?

          • formwiz says:

            They want to stay in office, they need the Jewish vote, Lefties or not.

            She’s talking about the Israelis.

            Trying to bankrupt and economically destroy the Jewish state isn’t anti-Semitic? You ought to go back to showing monster movies.

            You’re never going to make it as a troll.

          • Zachriel says:

            formwiz: She’s talking about the Israelis.

            That’s right.

            formwiz: Trying to bankrupt and economically destroy the Jewish state isn’t anti-Semitic?

            Not necessarily. It depends on motive. There are many people now — on both sides — frustrated with the inability of the parties to find a two-state solution, who are now looking at a one-state solution. This would be a disaster for both sides, however.

            Omar has sympathy for the Palestinian cause and considers Israel’s occupation to be oppressive. BDS is an attempt to force Israel to find a political solution that ends the occupation. Whether you agree with her or not, that doesn’t necessarily make her anti-Semitic.

      • Doom and Gloom says:

        Obama himself tried to interfere in the election of the Israeli prime minister by setting up an office in Israel and FUNDING anti- Netanyahu campaign. I wonder what the left would have done if Putin had set up offices in America and funded Anti-TRUMP or Anti-HRC offices? Nothing until HRC lost. Which is pathetic of course. Obama said I can be flexible after his 2012 election to the president of Russia.

        What we all know he meant by that and why he did nothing about Russian meddling was because he knew his own party was spying on Trump and he knew that HRC was going to smash trump so hard it was not worth the effort to do anything about Russian Meddling.

        Now how do I know this? Well the same reason you use a VOTE to suggest that because a MAJORITY voted against the BDS resolution. If all it takes is a vote then 100 percent of democrats are opposed to the GREEN NEW DEAL and, and….They are obviously opposed to everything in the bill which included medicare for all, free college etc. Ad nauseum. But of course we know that is a lie?

        Correct? Since they are nearly all campaigning on those very things.

        But as you say 100 percent voted against the bill so that must mean its a figment of our imagination.

        So it is clear that Zach supports the firing of rockets into Israel in attempts to kill jews as non violent.

        • Zachriel says:

          Doom and Gloom: Obama himself tried to interfere in the election of the Israeli prime minister by setting up an office in Israel and FUNDING anti- Netanyahu campaign.

          That is not quite correct. What happened was that $350,000 in resources (voters lists) used for legal advocacy were diverted to the political campaign after the original grant had ended. A bipartisan Senate committee uncovered the problem. It wasn’t actually illegal under then current rules, so new rules were imposed to prevent a recurrence.

          • formwiz says:

            No, he did all he could to unite the Arab parties against Netanyahu.

            Not to mention interference in Russia, Macedonia, Albania, Libya, Egypt, France, and Great Britain.

          • Zachriel says:

            Doom and Gloom: No, he did all he could to unite the Arab parties against Netanyahu.

            You might want to be more specific, but you seem to be conflating two things; legal and illegal interference. It is illegal to spend money on a foreign campaign. It is not illegal to express an opinion, though it can be considered poor diplomatic etiquette if by a foreign leader.

        • formwiz says:

          I love watching Jeffery argue with himself.

    • formwiz says:

      You’re talking about secular Jews who worship at the feet of Franklin Roosevelt.

  3. formwiz says:

    And apologized, as she should. That’s not evidence that she hates the Jews, but evidence that she recognized the hurt and humanity of the Jewish people, the history of anti-Semitic tropes, as well as the ability to learn from her mistakes.

    That was in February, what about all the statements she’s made since?

    Oh, that’s right. When the party starts to get on her case, she apologizes. Again. And again. And again.

    All she does was what Jessuh Jackson did when he was caught calling Gotham as Hymietown and wanted to remain a wheel in the Democrat party.

    She still supports BDS, still is mobbed up with terrorists, and is still being hectored by the Democrats for it because they can’t afford to lose the Jewish vote.

    So your pious words that she recognized the hurt and humanity of the Jewish people, the history of anti-Semitic tropes, as well as the ability to learn from her mistakes are just more of your lies.

    • Zachriel says:

      formwiz: When the party starts to get on her case, she apologizes. Again. And again. And again.

      So, according to you, she oversteps, her colleagues object, she apologizes, and modifies her behavior. How did you think it worked? Oh, that’s right. Trump.

      • Kye says:

        I realize your job for Soros is to come here and obfuscate, lie, manipulate words, misquote, and keep moving goal posts but really, Zach? The Mohammadans illegal spews anti Semite crap over and over and you actually believe by shouting…TRUMP! that makes it okay? IT doesn’t and you know it. You are supporting an anti American and anti Semite Mohammadan and you should be ashamed. ASHAMED!!! You are nothing but bullshit!

        Trump 2020 Stop the bullshit.
        https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AlBnY06ZJlI/XSipolYD7WI/AAAAAAAB51E/uaHFSGGwNgscTOa_2Tr1n4cPvT-K_ySMQCLcBGAs/s1600/90mimb_927d382b24af5b74f0715136e07c90c5_fb82311a_640.jpg

      • formwiz says:

        If she apologizes continually, she is not modifying her behavior.

        Wotta maroon. If not quadroon.

        • Zachriel says:

          Kye: I realize your job for Soros

          Our opinions are our own, and freely given. (Have you ever noticed that there’s a Jew at the bottom of every conspiracy theory.)

          • Kye says:

            If your opinions are your own why do they seem coordinated, repetitive, exactly alike and very Don Lemon/CNN?

            I have not noticed that there’s a Jew at the bottom of every conspiracy theory but what I have noticed is that Jews get blamed for a whole lot of shit that just a few million people on earth don’t seem to have the power to do. Like being accused of EVERY conspiracy theory. But you Soros guys can believe anything. Hell, Soros himself is a Jew/Nazi/communist and you follow him. That says a lot about you right there.

            Trump 2020 This is no country for old Soros’.

          • formwiz says:

            And whichever cartoon character he is that day, he says them in exactly the same way.

            And Soros is no Jew. He’s a Nazi.

          • Zachriel says:

            Kye: Like being accused of EVERY conspiracy theory.

            Yeah. We noticed a Jew was at the bottom of your conspiracy theory.

            formwiz: And Soros is no Jew. He’s a Nazi.

            Soros is of Jewish ancestry, and is not a Nazi. Why would you think otherwise?

  4. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    TEACH: “The idea is good…”

    But it was proposed by the “Jew-hating”, “Mohammadan”, “America-hating”, “anti-Semitic”, “Socialist”, “illegal” alien, so how can it be accepted.

    Also, she doesn’t appear to be “white” like you.

    • formwiz says:

      Racist, are we?

      PS Clock. Stopped. Twice a day.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        The GOP has become the movement of Caucasian, Country (rural), Christian Conservatives (4C). Although trump has tapped the 4C’s worst fear – loss of privilege or “replacement” – the GOP has been working tirelessly for years to suppress the influence of minorities in our democracy. This includes voter suppression efforts – gerrymandering, local laws making it difficult for the working poor to vote, and lately welcoming foreign assistance to aid GOP candidates.

        Many in the white nationalism movement see the changing demographics as Armageddon, and feel 2020 may be their last stand.

        • formwiz says:

          The GOP has become the movement of Caucasian, Country (rural), Christian Conservatives (4C).

          It has? With all the NeverTrumpers (including the Bushes) still in it?

          the GOP has been working tirelessly for years to suppress the influence of minorities in our democracy. This includes voter suppression efforts – gerrymandering, local laws making it difficult for the working poor to vote, and lately welcoming foreign assistance to aid GOP candidates.

          More like the Demos. The only reason Elijah Cummings has a sinecure in the House is everything you just mentioned.

          Many in the white nationalism movement see the changing demographics as Armageddon

          The Lefties have been pushing this for 40 years and it hasn’t come to pass. So where do you get this stuff?

          Der Sturmer?

  5. Kye says:

    Wow, the “Caucasian, Country, Christian Conservatives”. All the people you come here to hate wrapped up in a nutshell of identity politics leftists style. Very good, Elwood. You’ve identified all the various groups you not only hate but that you want to hurt.

    It wasn’t Trump who started talking about “replacement” it was you guys. That was long before Trump entered the picture, Elwood. You guys have been threatening how you are going to make the white majority an minority by so-in-so date. That’s called genocide Elwood. But the left has always practiced genocide wherever they gain power be it Germany, Russia, Cambodia, Cuba, China anywhere there is the predominant left the bodies pile up.

    So now you want to eliminate the Caucasians, Country folk, Christians and Conservatives? Exactly what have these people done to you that you think they deserve eradication?

    Are you mad because Caucasian Christians discovered America and conquered the indigenous Indians from South America to Canada? Or because the Christian Caucasians were the Founding Fathers of our wonderful country but neither they nor America meets your contemporary standards and they should have known better? Or perhaps that it was those damn Caucasian Christians that wrote the Declaration and Constitution based on Biblical principles and English Common Law?

    I just suppose you resent the fact that white Christians founded this nation like all Western nations as a Caucasian Christian nation. Then it’s really not Trump you hate, It’s America itself! So basically you hate America more than you love anything? It makes sense considering you hate the people that made America great, want them exterminated and want to make America into a different country.

    Have you read the “Manifesto” from the nut job in Texas? In part he states he’s a Climate Cultist, just like you! Wow, does that mean you’ll go out killin’ Caucasian Christians next?
    Read the entire manifesto then see how much your anti Caucasian bullshit contributes to nut cases like this.

    Trump 2020 Stop the anti Christian/Caucasian hate!

    • Zachriel says:

      Kye: That’s called genocide

      No. Demographic trends are not genocide.

      • formwiz says:

        Tell it to black America.

        • Kye says:

          They are when they’re force upon an unwilling people. The influx of immigrants from all non-Caucasian nations is not a “demographic trend”. It is a forced extermination of our race. We are being FORCED to take in people we DON”T WANT OR NEED to satisfy the leftist movement to end Caucasian countries and replace them with the “more controllable” colored ones.

          This is as much a “demographic trend” as shipping Jews to Auschwitz was a mass transit experiment.

          Trump 2020 Before the “demographic trend” ends America!

          • Zachriel says:

            And yet the so-called conservatives say not a word.

            Kye: It is a forced extermination of our race.

    • Zachriel says:

      Kye: I just suppose you resent the fact that white Christians founded this nation like all Western nations as a Caucasian Christian nation.

      Actually, it was founded as a white supremacist, black slave society.

      • formwiz says:

        No, it wasn’t. In fact there was a lot of conversation about whether slavery should even be allowed.

        Pick up a book some time.

      • Kye says:

        That’s your interpretation TODAY looking back over 200 years. Back then it was called a Free Republic where the government was subservient to the people. You are viewing them through 21st century eyes and ideals. You really should be more concerned about TODAYS Mohammadan countries that still practice slavery that hating America for something that occurred centuries ago. Or like pointing fingers at Trump because Baltimore is a rat infested shithole it is easier for you to point fingers at the Founding Fathers than stop the real slavery existing today?

        Trump 2020 Because the Republicans took away the Democrats slaves.

        • Zachriel says:

          Kye: Back then it was called a Free Republic where the government was subservient to the people.

          Gee. You mean 18th century people weren’t aware of the African slaves in their midst? In fact, slavery was built into the foundations of the American republic. It took a civil war and the 13th amendment to end slavery.

          Kye: You are viewing them through 21st century eyes and ideals.

          Not at all, but you made a false claim about the difficulties entailed in the founding of the U.S. republic.

          • Kye says:

            I made no “false claims”. 18th century people thought about slaves (African, Irish or Slaves) about as much as you think about your dishwasher. When you need it to work, you put your dishwasher to the task, it being your property. YOU are lying and once again moving goal posts to try and make an invalid point.

            What you seem to forget is that slavery of ALL kinds has existed since the dawn of man and America was no exception. Hell, the Aztecs were enslaving their enemies long before Cortez arrived on the scene and many Indian tribes in North America used slavery.

            It was the White Christian morality evolved from the Reformation and Age of Reason that lead to emancipation. And it was America who was willing to bleed to emancipate the African slaves it it’s midst. Your hatred of America notwithstanding, we still ended slavery and freed all the slaves owned by the Traitorous Rebel Southern Democrats. Sadly even today the Democrats running big cities as modern plantations still virtually enslave blacks in a generational trap of dependency, crime, illiteracy and drugs. And you Democrats do it well. You have virtually broken the black race in America.

            BTW, it was and is the Caucasian Christian society which made slavery illegal yet it is still practiced by Mohammadans.

            Trump 2020 Get rid of the modern day slavers….Democrats!

          • Zachriel says:

            Kye: 18th century people thought about slaves (African, Irish or Slaves) about as much as you think about your dishwasher.

            That is incorrect. Slavery was a major and contentious issue when drafting the U.S. Constitution. For instance, slaves were counted as 3/5 a person for the purposes of apportionment, part of the Connecticut Compromise of 1787.

            Kye: … Mohammadans …

            You keep using that term. Most Muslims consider it a misnomer as Mohammad is not God in the Islamic faith, but a prophet.

    • formwiz says:

      He’s also a registered Democrat, wants guaranteed annual income And Universal Healthcare, says our leaders, both Democrat AND Republican, have been failing us for decades, and says the Hispanics weren’t his target.

      May or may not be American Indian, but he uses Native American, so he’s a Lefty.

      Sounds a lot like Jeffery.

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Sounds a lot like Ed Dutcher to us.

        Dutcher should read the manifesto so he won’t sound so ignorant.

        Can you prove he’s a registered Democrat?

        The shooter proposed eliminating millions of immigrants so there would be more for white folks. He mistakenly believes that automation will eliminate most jobs and that immigrants will take what good jobs there are.

        Almost all of his violent proclamation was about getting rid of immigrants and the mechanics of his terrorist attack.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      Kye, Kye, Kye…

      I’m a Country Caucasian myself… hillbilly straight out of the Ozark hills. But never conservative and not a Christian. And although I likely own more guns than you, it would never occur to me to buy an assault weapon and start shooting innocent people. More and more, public mass shooters are white power extremists.

      “The F.B.I. has said that more Americans have died in domestic terrorist attacks than international ones since Sept. 11, and that domestic terrorism is increasingly motivated by white supremacist ideology.”

      This explains, at least in part, why conservatives now hate the F.B.I.

      No. I have not read the entire manifesto. Can you link to it? Thanks. Nevermind – found it at Gateway Pundit – who, of course, selected a few phrases to claim the mass murderer who ranted against being “replaced” by immigrants was a progressive. You didn’t read the entire manifesto did you? You read the conclusions from the Gateway Pudendum.

      Can you point out in the manifesto where he mentions, CO2, climate, global warming or climate change?

  6. formwiz says:

    Yeah. We noticed a Jew was at the bottom of your conspiracy theory.

    Dr Evil is no Jew.

    Soros is of Jewish ancestry, and is not a Nazi. Why would you think otherwise?

    His fondest memory is riding around Budapest with the SS fingering Jewish property.

    When you were in the bunny suit we went around with this and you were proven a liar.

    • Zachriel says:

      This is typical of many on the far political right, to mangle history and facts to reach a preconceived conclusions.

      formwiz: His fondest memory is riding around Budapest with the SS fingering Jewish property.

      It was for the Jewish Council that 13-year-old George Soros worked for all of two days. He was asked to deliver messages across the city. When his father read one of the messages, he saw that they were in fact summonses, orders for Jewish individuals to report to a rabbinical seminar with food for two days and blankets. In an interview with the New Yorker, Soros said:

      This was a profoundly important experience for me. My father said, “You should go ahead and deliver [the summonses], but tell the people that if they report they will be deported.” The reply from one man was “I am a law-abiding citizen. They can’t do anything to me.” I told my father, and that was an occasion for a lecture that there are times when you have laws that are immoral, and if you obey them you perish.
      https://www.vox.com/2018/6/11/17405784/george-soros-not-a-nazi-trump

      No. Soros was not a Nazi. He was a child. His father hid him with a Christian family. One of the man’s duties was to inventory Jewish possessions, and Soros went along on one occasion, but that was hardly to the blame of the child.

      • david7134 says:

        Z,
        You actually quoted Vox. Did you read the article in a critical manner? The answer is no, just to save you time. The article is a piece of obvious propaganda. Really children like you should learn something before commenting. I would bet you have never been around survivors before. If you did you would’ve known that certain Jews were the ones that rounded up their fellow Jews, herded them to the gas chambers, gassed them, took their cloths and valuables, and burned them. The Germans did little of this. Soros was one of those Jews. I have met some of these people and they are pure scum. Now you will say something stupid like what would I do in that situation. Fact is I have been in bad situations and know I am not that type of creep. Soros is a very bad person.

        • Zachriel says:

          david7134: The article is a piece of obvious propaganda.

          We provided evidence. You said “Is not.”

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      Much of conservative dogma is based on falsehood.

      Including, “Soros was a Nazi”.

      The Clintons had hundreds murdered.
      Obama was born in Kenya.
      Sec Clinton gave our uranium to Russia.
      The Civil War was not about slavery.

      • formwiz says:

        He said his time with the SS was his happiest memory.

        Yeah, Epstein will be the latest.

        That’s what he said on his last trip to Africa.

        We have the proof (that damned word once again).

        Sorry, it was about the protective tariff and preserving the Union.

        My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or destroy Slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it

        Abraham Lincoln

        And, on a musical note, he said,

        I have always thought ‘Dixie’ one of the best tunes I have ever heard. Our adversaries over the way attempted to appropriate it, but I insisted yesterday that we fairly captured it. It is good to show the rebels that with us they will be free to hear it again.

        • Zachriel says:

          formwiz: He said his time with the SS was his happiest memory.

          Soros was never a member of the SS. He was a child during that period.

          formwiz (quoting): “My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or destroy Slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it.

          That’s right. The North fought for Union. The South seceded to preserve slavery.

  7. Kye says:

    That’s your interpretation TODAY looking back over 200 years. Back then it was called a Free Republic where the government was subservient to the people. You are viewing them through 21st century eyes and ideals. You really should be more concerned about TODAYS Mohammadan countries that still practice slavery that hating America for something that occurred centuries ago. Or like pointing fingers at Trump because Baltimore is a rat infested shithole it is easier for you to point fingers at the Founding Fathers than stop the real slavery existing today?

    Trump 2020 Because the Republicans took away the Democrats slaves.

    • Zachriel says:

      Kye: You are viewing them through 21st century eyes and ideals.

      Not at all. But you had introduced a false claim about the complexities of the founding of the U.S. republic.

      • formwiz says:

        No, he doesn’t. You make false claims.

        • Zachriel says:

          formwiz: No, he doesn’t.

          We provided evidence. You said “Is not.”

          Kye: 18th century people thought about slaves (African, Irish or Slaves) about as much as you think about your dishwasher.

          That was a false claim. The 18th century saw a great deal of controversy and discussion of slavery, including by the founders of the U.S.

          • Kye says:

            Once again for you idiots among us: It wasn’t a “claim” it was a flip hyperbole. Get your head out of your ass, Zach. Can’t you tell the difference between a smart-azz comment and a statement of fact? Or do you read Mad magazine with the same intensity as Scientific American?

          • Zachriel says:

            Kye: It wasn’t a “claim” it was a flip hyperbole.

            You said, adding a bit more context, “18th century people thought about slaves (African, Irish or Slaves) about as much as you think about your dishwasher. When you need it to work, you put your dishwasher to the task, it being your property.”

            But your statement wasn’t accurate, not literally, or as any reasonable attempt at hyperbole (rather than simple misdirection). Here’s our original statement:

            Z: Actually, the U.S. was founded as a white supremacist, black slave society.

            The U.S. Constitution includes the 3/5 rule for slaves, so it is explicit in allowing for slavery. The early history of the U.S. includes not only black slavery, but ethnic cleansing of the native population. The Dred Scott decision made white supremacy explicit, while the seceding states in the civil war made clear their belief that the essential compromise of the U.S. Constitution was based on protecting property rights to slaves.

  8. formwiz says:

    I tire reading Dutcher’s lies and excuses.

    Keene’s just mad because the collapse of the United States is flopping badly. Chlamydia has been ensnared like Laocoon in her record, Buttpeg has become just another me, too, and Spartacus is going nowhere even faster while Trump’s black support is about a third, same as his Hispanic support.

    50 state sweep anyone?

    And he’ll retake the House. The math is simple.

    There are 31 seats that Democrats sit in today that Trump carried. Of those 31, 13 of them Trump carried by more than six points (we’re talking MN 7, NY 22, OK 5, SC 1, ME 2, NM 2, NY 11, PA 8, NY 19, MI 8, UT 4, VA 7, and NJ 3). Since the Communist wing of the Demos is trying to take them further left, when the only way they have the majority is actually winning in Republican areas that are swing districts.

    Republicans hold 198 seats in the House. A majority in the House is 218 seats. So, if Republicans take back those 13 seats from Democrats in districts that Trump won by more than six percent, and seven more from the remaining 18 districts (NJ 2, WI 3, MI 11, IA 2, IL 14, IA 1, IA 3, VA 2, PA 17, NY 18, NH 1, GA 6, MN 2, AZ 1, NJ 5, NV 3, NJ 11, and IL 17) that Democrats represent that Trump won, while holding what they currently have, they retake the majority in ’20.

    7 of those states Trump lost last time Trump and Parscale intend to carry.

    And Americans vote their pocketbooks.

    He’s also mad because every day, I kick the asses of all his cartoon characters and expose their lies.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      It’s spelled k.i.s.s. You kiss my ass every day.

      Anyway, you either underestimate Americans or you’re whistling past the graveyard.

      In any event, the raw and violent panic exhibited by the right refutes your point. The only hope for a white nationalist takeover of the US is cheating, which trump is promoting.

      • formwiz says:

        The word is kick, although, in your perverted homosexual fantasies, I guess you dig the S&M, too.

        I called it right before and it’s going that way again. You’re the one in the graveyard. A few more Democrat debates and there won’t even be a party.

        The only hope for a white nationalist takeover of the US is cheating, which trump is promoting.

        Now that’s projection. Democrats are on record bragging that they can’t win without vote fraud. Gonna be a long 4 years for you.

  9. Elwood P. Dowd says:

    Here’s the manifesto.

    https://egbertowillies.com/2019/08/03/patrick-crusius-manifesto/

    There is still some question as to whether it is his document.

    The thesis is that Hispanics are diluting American culture by “replacing” whites, and that whites need to take up arms to defeat the invasion. He blames Dems for bringing in Hispanics for votes (the prevailing right-wing conspiracy theory), and corporate Repubs for being complicit bringing in low wage workers.

    • formwiz says:

      Yeah, a hardcore Red and a true White nationalist.

      Sounds like Jeffery, except he’s a black nationalist, one of Elijah Muhammad’s boys.

      Define irony.

    • Kye says:

      So IOW, he blames everybody but SPECIFICALLY says Trump had nothing to do with him or his actions. So now you can believe him, not believe him or believe everything he says except what he says about Trump and climate change. OR…you could be normal and figure the guy for a nut case and a product of his own fantasies.

      Trump 2020 Cause we don’t need no more nut jobs!

      • Elwood P. Dowd says:

        Kye,

        So Muslims who commit terrorist acts are part of the worldwide menace, but Christian white power terrorists are all lone wolves. Got it.

        His manifesto sounded just like you, Silbey, david, Hannity and trump.

        When will you “moderate” Christian white nationalists start condemning your violent fringe members? When will the “moderates” among your cult tone down your dehumanizing rhetoric? We saw this a few decades ago when extremist Christians were bombing abortion clinics and murdering abortion providers, and “moderates” offered little criticism.

        • Kye says:

          Elwood, I just said that non of us think killing innocent Americans is okay. But if you like to think an entire religion of 1.5 billion cultists are the same as some extremist nut cases who are white and may or may not be Christian are the same then go ahead. You’re always dying to show how eeeevil white people and Christians are so be my guest. Rational people realize who the real terrorists are at least not self hating whites do.

          Zach. The 3/5 clause was put in the Constitution to RECOGNIZE the black population. The South did NOT WANT THEM COUNTED AS “PEOPLE” but the north made a compromise which actually did make them people. Not fully enfranchised but at least seen as real live people and not just property.

          But the main point Zach is that in the 18th century there was no such thing as “white supremacy” or “ethnic cleansing”. These are more modern terms designed to disparage the achievements of the white race, specifically the accomplishments of America in trying to eliminate such things. IOW, more ways for America hating communist leftists like yourself to demean America and every single white person who created her, and lived in her. You are trying to “prove” America is a raaaaacist country in a world of raaaaacist countries. No proof needed. The fact that we have people here like you and Elwood who only see people by their race and as objects to be exploited for political gain and phony virtue signaling shows we still have raaaaacists in America.

          The leftist white haters today are trying to do genocide by whatever means necessary against white Americans strictly for personal power. Thing is, we haven’t played Cowboys and Leftists yet. You won’t like it. So when all your threats of making whites subservient minorities are believed and some nuts start shooting back you run around screaming “white nationalism/supremacy” when in fact it’s your constant instigation and race baiting that’s driving it. If you loved America more than you hate white folks there wouldn’t be that many white nut cases and we could concentrate on the Mohammadan terrorists. Or is that your point?

          Trump 2020 Throw the white hating racists out!

          • Zachriel says:

            Kye: The 3/5 clause was put in the Constitution to RECOGNIZE the black population.

            It was put in the constitution to equalize power between the slave and free states.

            Kye: But the main point Zach is that in the 18th century there was no such thing as “white supremacy” or “ethnic cleansing”.

            Is that supposed to be more “hyperbole”? Of course there was white supremacist ideology in the 18th century. “Scientific racism” in Europe dates to the 17th century. Of course there was ethnic cleansing in the 18th century. Just because they didn’t use those terms doesn’t mean the phenomena didn’t exist. Denying established historical facts doesn’t make for much of an argument.

            Kye: These are more modern terms designed to disparage the achievements of the white race …

            Wow. Just wow.

            In any case, recognizing the failings of the U.S. doesn’t mean not also recognizing the accomplishments of the U.S. But denying the truth is not a way to overcome those failings. The U.S. isn’t number one because they thump their chests and shout that they’re the best, but because they have long done the hard work of achievement.

        • formwiz says:

          The clowns over the weekend were lone wolves.

          Dayton was a Demo and a fan of Fauxcahontas.

          El Paso was a hardcore Red and a true white nationalist, unlike the epithet you throw at us.

          OTOH Moslems terrorists are often part of organized groups

          And El Paso sounded just like you right down to the universal healthcare.

          But, if we’re talking about condemning crazies, when do you start condemning Antifa, the Moslem crazies, and the illegals and admit your side commits most of the violence in this country?

  10. Kye says:

    Wow. Just wow right back at ya. You’ve been schooled on thing and I another. And once again anything the ol’leftist says is an “established fact”. Well, it’s not. Fact is they considered what today may be called ethnic cleansing as conquest and/or taming heathen savages. And “Scientific racism” is not “white supremacy” or it would be called white supremacy. Repeating the same fallacies with different names attached doesn’t make for much of an argument either.

    This is what you always do in every discussion, change the names or words and move the goal posts in the hope of somehow proving a error. I’m on to you and will not continue to go around in circles with you as you continue arguing something that needs no argument. But thanks for playing.

    Trump 2020 Make “Scientific racism” a new liberal arts course in a-hole schools.

    • Zachriel says:

      Kye: Fact is they considered what today may be called ethnic cleansing as conquest and/or taming heathen savages.

      They pushed them off their lands. That’s ethnic cleansing.

      Kye: And “Scientific racism” is not “white supremacy” or it would be called white supremacy.

      Yes, “scientific racism” was the intellectual basis for white supremacy, and dates to the 17th century. You seem to be conflating the term “white supremacy” with its meaning. The term didn’t originate until late in the 19th century, but the ideology long predates the term itself.

      • formwiz says:

        Hate to tell you, but the Indians were doing it to each other long before the white man showed up.

        And every dominant group thinks it’s the master race.

      • Kye says:

        Okay, this is my last go around on this topic. The term “white supremacy” didn’t originate until the late 19th century because it didn’t exist. Western conquerors did so for a king, a nation a flag but I have yet to read any Western theory pre 20th century which literally called for white supremacy. Now, I know you will dig one up somewhere but I don’t believe it to have been a predominant motivation behind either mass killing or conquest. Even the Aztecs and other Indians didn’t mass murder people because of race, they did it because of tribe, or to conquer, or for women or for land but not by race.

        Similarly, the English/Americans did not slaughter Indians because they were Red, they killed them in a protracted war of conquest for their land and resources. Their Redness was incidental and only a means to identify them as an enemy.

        That’s my take on this subject and it’s wonderful that you disagree but I have no more to say about it.

        Trump 2020 Now more than ever because if the DemComs win we lose our firearms….forever!

        • Elwood P. Dowd says:

          Kye,

          The Supreme Court has reaffirmed an American’s right to possess firearms for self-defense.

          Are you afraid the Dems will try to repeal the 2nd Amendment? Or do you believe since they’re commies they’ll declare martial law and start confiscating guns?

          In your opinion can there legally be any limits on firearms?

          • Zachriel says:

            Kye: The term “white supremacy” didn’t originate until the late 19th century because it didn’t exist… I have yet to read any Western theory pre 20th century which literally called for white supremacy.

            Texas Declaration of Secession, 1861: We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable.

            Kye: Similarly, the English/Americans did not slaughter Indians because they were Red, they killed them in a protracted war of conquest for their land and resources.

            U.S. Declaration of Independence: {King George III} has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

            Naturalization Act of 1790

            Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That any alien, being a free white person, may be admitted to become a citizen of the United States, or any of them, on the following conditions, and not otherwise: —

          • Zachriel says:

            Dred Scott decision, 1857: “They had for more than a century before been regarded as beings of an inferior order and altogether unfit to associate with the white race, either in social or political relations; and so far inferior that they had no rights which the white man was bound to respect; and that the Negro might justly and lawfully be reduced to slavery for his benefit.”

          • formwiz says:

            The Lefties want to repeal the entire Constitution.

            PS 51% of all mass murderers this year have been black.

            And all were lifelong losers.

            I expect Jeffery to join their ranks after the next election.

          • Elwood P. Dowd says:

            Edward D,

            Do you have evidence that 51% of mass murderers were black.

            And the definition of mass murder used in the study? Thanks.

  11. formwiz says:

    Somebody tell Zacherle those were Confederates and Southern sympathizers.

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