Oh, lawdy, here we go again
Winter nor’easters have steadily grown more severe over the last eight decades, and they will become even worse if climate change is not dealt with, according to a new study co-authored by a University of Pennsylvania professor.
The research, published Monday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, looked at 85 years of nor’easter data and found that over this period, the destructive potential of maximum wind speeds increased by 20%, and snowfall has risen about 10%.
But, what happened to
- Flashback 2000: ‘Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past’ – ‘Children just aren’t going to know what snow is’ – UK Independent
- NY Times (2014) The End of Snow?
- NY Times (2024) The End of Snow
- Bloomberg The End of Snow Threatens to Upend 76 Million American Lives
- CNN The end of winter: A search for vanishing snow and ice around the Northern Hemisphere
Huh
“The average nor’easter, we find, won’t necessarily be any stronger, but the strongest ones will,” said Dr. Michael Mann, study co-author and director of the Penn Center for Science, Sustainability, and the Media.
Huh what?
“Because the Arctic is warming faster than the rest of the planet, that actually leads to fewer overall storms. But those storms that do make it out feed on that extra moisture. There’s more precipitation, and that provides more energy to these storms, and they can intensify more.”
And as climate change worsens, these storms will intensify.
“It also drives home the importance of moving away from our reliance on fossil fuels toward clean energy,” said Mann, “because it is leading to these devastating extreme weather events.
Sigh.
“Professor” teach didn’t read the PNAS paper but Professor Mann reasoned:
Yet, show data to suggest the remaining ETC’s will be stronger.
So, what is “Professor” teach’s beef? He should relax. He won. The fight is over. Yes, the Earth will warm but with fewer costs to MAGAts for mitigation!! A warmer Earth, fewer taxes and more liberal tears!!! Win, win, win! Relax!
I could go with less snow here in western ny
From the paper-“The ERA 5 global reanalysis dataset provides hourly “estimates” of climate data from 1940 to the present…”
So in other words they use a model to “estimate” what the storms did in the past to then say “they’re getting stronger”. Nice
What? The scientists used computers to assess the data rather than the more reliable abacus?? The horror! And they used the term “estimates”!!
Renowned climate scientist Jl demolishes the PNAS article!!!
Can you read? A model to “estimate” the data. So they’re not really accessing any data going back that far, because there isn’t any. They’re estimating what the data would have been using a computer model.
Jl,
We understand that you do not “believe” the basic physics of global warming, for example, that Warmer air holds more water vapor than cooler air.
Is it happening? Apparently so.
Would you expect it to decrease as the Earth continues to warm?
But relax. The MAGA-GOP is stopping all funding to study climate and all government efforts to slow warming. You’ve won!!! Of course, the right-wing cretins aren’t satisfied until they punish the climate “cultists”. Mr trump and his henchmen will destroy Professor Mann if needed.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/14/climate/noreaster-storm-global-warming
HOAX. FAT JEFF has no knowledge of physics.
Jl,
Here’s the PNAS article.
Nice try-what comes from a computer model isn’t, nor is it ever, data. That study used computer models to “estimate” what the storms were like back to 1940. They then used that say “we think they’re getting worse”.
Another good one-“flooding risk may be underestimated”. A risk is something that hasn’t happened, and may not happen. Typical cult -speak. It “may be..”. Which of course also means “it may not be”
“We understand you didn’t believe basic physics, that warm air holds more water vapor than cold air”. Are there several people in the room with you as you write this reply? Please point to where I’ve ever said warm air doesn’t hold more moisture-good luck with that!
But that warm air for some reason doesn’t cause more nor’easters. Strange
Jl typed:
Facts are facts. The data says more severe nor’easters.
Facts are facts-the data which I quoted said the total number of nor’easters hasn’t gone up. The total is a different metric than severity, which if you could read you’d know.
“The data says more severe nor’easters”. Nope, the data doesn’t say that because they didn’t have data going back that far , which is why a computer model was used to “estimate” what they think happened. Estimates aren’t data.