If All You See…

…is a horrible carbon polluting pool, you might just be a Warmist

The blog of the day is The Last Refuge, with a post wondering whether or not Obama will pardon Hillary.

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28 Responses to “If All You See…”

  1. Rev.Hoagie® says:

    I thought all the charges surrounding Killary for the last 40 years were all false. How can someone be pardoned for something they didn’t do?

    Although it would make a good historical epitaph: The Clintons, second President impeached first SecState needed to be pardoned.

    I believe like Ford did with Nixon, it is better for the country of we just drop the whole thing so Obama should pardon her.

  2. gitarcarver says:

    As I have said before, if he pardons Clinton, he is saying she committed a crime. If she accepts the pardon, she is admitting to the crime.

    The US Supreme Court has held in United States v. Burdick.:

    This brings us to the differences between legislative immunity and a pardon. They are substantial. The latter carries an imputation of guilt; acceptance a confession of it. (emphasis ours)

    In Wilson v. United States, the Court wrote:

    A pardon is an act of grace, proceeding from the power entrusted with the execution of the laws, which exempts the individual on whom it is bestowed from the punishment the law inflicts for a crime he has committed. (emphasis ours)

    Once again, if Obama pardons her, he is saying she committed a crime(s). If she accepts the pardon, she is admitting that she committed the crime(s).

    I can’t see that happening.

    Therefore, if one really wanted to put Clinton in a box, the person who should pardon her is Trump. He can be magnanimous and want the country to move on, but he would be saying she committed crimes and if she accepts the pardon, she is admitting to those crimes. Either way, Trump looks good and Hillary looks horrible.

  3. Jeffery says:

    If President Obama thought there was a reasonable likelihood that Trumpski’s DOJ would pursue malicious prosecution of Secretary Clinton he might be tempted. In any regard, this is just a continuing right-wing wet dream.

    Perhaps Mr. Obama should pardon Trumpski. Or arrest him.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4906642,00.html

  4. drowningpuppies says:

    #Morefakenews from the little guy.

  5. david7134 says:

    Hoagie,
    I would agree with you, but the problem is that Hillary and the Dems have not played fair with the transition. She or her minions are constantly challenging the legitimate claims of Trump to his fair winning of the election. In addition, millions of people in the US, and for that matter around the world, see this woman as a criminal and wonder why she hasn’t faced justice like the rest of us. She deserves her day in court.

  6. Jeffery says:

    Comrade Trumpski and his minions label all unflattering news as “fake”. Israel can’t afford to gamble with their national security. Can Trumpski play footsies with Russia, Iran’s benefactor, AND hope to have an ally in Israel?

    Discussions held in closed forums recently raised fears of a leakage of Israeli intelligence top-classified information, clandestine modus operandi and sources, which have been exposed to the American intelligence community over the past 15 years, to Russia – and from there to Iran.
     
    The cause of concern are the suspicions of unreported ties between the president-elect or his associates and the Kremlin, whose agents are also associated with intelligence officials in Tehran.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4906642,00.html

  7. Jeffery says:

    More Denial from the Little Puppy Who Licks His Own Balls…

  8. drowningpuppies says:

    #StillFakeNews, little guy.
    And your little insults won’t change that, little soldier.

  9. gitarcarver says:

    What is interesting about Jeffery’s citations is the alleged sources are people in the US Intelligence community. They would be the same people that have tried to de-legitimize Trump for quite some time.

    Is there any actual evidence to their claims? Nope. Not a shred. (There’s a bit of irony in the alleged sources in the “intelligence community” complaining about Trump not keeping secrets while divulging sensitive information as well.)

    So while the citations have concerns about Trump (not from the Israelis mind you) Jeffery conveniently forgets Clinton’s lack of security which opened up confidential emails and conversations to everyone in the world. Yet in Jeffery’s world, it is Trump who is the threat.

    Jeffery also conveniently missed these articles from the same source:

    Palestinians ask Putin to prevent Trump’s relocating embassy

    The Palestinians are more than friendly with Clintion and the Obama administration, but hey, things like that don’t matter.

    And then there is this on Obama:

    Paris meeting marks end to Obama’s failed Mideast diplomacy

    The Obama administration’s eight years of unsuccessful Israeli-Palestinian diplomacy will come to a crashing end this weekend, with chances for a Mideast peace deal at perhaps their lowest ebb in a generation. A Paris peace conference attended by Secretary of State John Kerry isn’t expected to produce any tangible progress.

    At a time when President-elect Donald Trump’s administration is promising a fundamental shift toward Israel, the State Department said Kerry was only participating in the French-hosted event to ensure America’s interest in a two-state solution to the conflict is preserved. The blunt statement reinforced the dwindling hopes for a diplomatic breakthrough.

    The left has to criticize Trump in order to hide the massive and almost un-imaginable failure of the Obama administration and try to distract from Hillary’s role in that failure and her promise to “continue the path” laid down by Obama.

  10. drowningpuppies says:

    What is interesting about Jeffery’s citations is the alleged sources are people in the US Intelligence community.

    This^^^^^^^


    And what happened is I had my meeting. Nobody knew, not even Rhona, my executive assistant for years, she didn’t know — I didn’t tell her. Nobody knew. The meeting was had, the meeting was over, they left. And immediately the word got out that I had a meeting.

    http://andstillipersist.com/2017/01/trump-throws-the-brushback-pitch/

  11. Rev.Hoagie® says:

    Frankly, there is so much/many accusations and plain BS flying around and so many bad actors (pun intended) from celebrities making videos to scores of left wing outfits sending “protestors” to the inauguration it’s looking like an attempt at a soft coup to me. It’s one thing hating the outcome of an election and even the guy who won, I’ve been there. It’s another to attempt to make the entire government unstable like some third world commie shit hole.

  12. drowningpuppies says:

    Ah, Hoagie,

    Just how beautiful will it be when our gov’t is actually run by people who care more about reality and helping America than giving money and power to leftist groups?

  13. Jeffery says:

    So you don’t like constant attacks on your guy?

    Listen, we all hope that the mentally ill Trumpski doesn’t destroy America out of his monumental ignorance and mercurial nature. We hope the extremist Repubs don’t destroy America with their ideology. Recall, more Americans voted for the other person than voted for Trumpski. We can be certain that Trumpski will take office with the lowest approval rating in modern history, as he has done nothing to assuage the concerns of the American people – in fact, he continues to antagonize normal Americans while he succors his radical base. He would rather be adored by a few than respected by many.

    The investigations into his sordid relationship(s) with Russia are just beginning. Fortunately for him, he has a rabid Congress to protect him.

    Trumpski will continue to attack, threaten and penalize those that criticize him. Maybe he’ll disclose his long-form birth certificate tax return. Once a petty tyrant loses the people he has no leverage except raw power and force.

  14. gitarcarver says:

    The problem is Jeffery that you and people of your ilk keep trotting out accusations without basis. It is people like you who are responsible for low approval ratings – not anything that Trump has done.

    It is clear that the left – not just the radical left – has lost their collective minds over the fact that Clinton lost and Obama’s legacy has gone down the toilet.

    So the more you talk, the more desperate you sound.

  15. drowningpuppies says:

    So the more you talk, the more desperate you sound.

    Actually want the little lying loser guy to keep whining, it’s a hoot reading his ignorant rants which highlight how unintelligent he is.

    Less than 7 days!

  16. drowningpuppies says:


    What Exactly Is Trumpism?
    Note the common denominator to the all these hostile groups: It is Trump the man, not Trump the avatar of some political movement that they detest. After all, there are no Trump political philosophers. There is no slate of down-ballot Trump ideologues. If Trump were to start a third party, what would be its chief tenets? There is as yet neither a Trump “Contract for America” nor a Trump “First Principles” manifesto.

    Nonetheless, from the 2016 campaign and from President-elect Trump’s slated appointments, past interviews, and tweets, we can see a coherent worldview emerging, something different from both orthodox conservativism and liberalism, though certainly Trumpism is far closer to the former than to the latter. Here may be a few outlines of Trumpist thought.

    http://victorhanson.com/wordpress/what-exactly-is-trumpism/#more-9726

  17. Jeffery says:

    Criticism has hurt Trumpski’s approval rating? Good. We’ll keep it up. He is such a big fat target. A closet commie, a pervert with a personality disorder, chronic liar, ignoramus, at least 5 kids by three different baby-mamas, and a thin-skinned bully.

    Even the media finally got over their man-crush and started practicing journalism. (Except for Morning Blow with Joe and Mika).

  18. drowningpuppies says:

    Maybe a few choruses of “I Will Survive” while sucking your thumb will help you cope, little guy…

  19. drowningpuppies says:

    Dont’cha kinda wonder how many of the Barky administration will leave the country and go where an extradition isn’t possible?

  20. Jeffery says:

    Traitors!

    Michael Flynn, President-elect Donald Trump’s choice for national security adviser, held five phone calls with Russia’s ambassador to Washington on the day the United States retaliated for Moscow’s interference in the U.S. presidential election, three sources familiar with the matter said.

    The calls occurred between the time the Russian embassy was told about U.S. sanctions and the announcement by Russian President Vladimir Putin that he had decided against reprisals, said the sources. They spoke on condition of anonymity, citing internal U.S. government deliberations about the issue.

    The calls raised fresh questions among U.S. officials about contacts between Trump’s advisers and Russian officials at a time when U.S. intelligence agencies contend that Moscow waged a multifaceted campaign of hacking and other actions to boost Republican Trump’s election chances against Democrat Hillary Clinton.

  21. Jeffery says:

    Who knows, perhaps Trumpski’s new Axis of Russia, Iran, Syria and America will be spectacular and help stabilize the world. We’ll see.

  22. Jeffery says:

    Spin and deflect. Why all the concern about the outgoing President and the vanquished candidate? Is it because you can’t defend the outrageous actions of your new authoritarian god-King?

    Should we give him a chance to destroy America if not the world?

  23. Rev.Hoagie® says:

    Should we give him a chance to destroy America if not the world?

    Unless you plan on overthrowing the government of the United States Jeffery, you’re gonna have to. We know how you feel Jeffery. That’s how we felt when Obama was elected. Now you can understand how lousy it feels to have someone you consider an asshole as President. BUT, unlike many on the left we were able to put it behind us for the most part. Matter of fact, it was the left that continued blaming Bush for Obama’s fuck-ups for years if I recall even while any criticism of Obama was of course, raaaacist.

    You guys need to work through your stages of grief, get off denial and move on. You all were amusing for the first month, irritating for the second but now into the third it’s becoming pathetic. Plus, a great many of you sound unhinged.

  24. drowningpuppies says:

    Another morning for some more #FakeNews and faux outrage, huh, little guy?
    You’re not taking losing well.

    6 more days… then dasvidaniya Barky and Moocher

  25. Jeffery says:

    Little Puppy Who Sniffs Asses has comprehensive comprehension issues.

  26. Jeffery says:

    Hoagie,

    The objective isn’t to get over Trumpski, but to get rid of him. Stay tuned.

  27. drowningpuppies says:

    Recent headlines claiming that malicious foreign actors “hacked” the 2016 election suggest that editors make deliberate choices to try to shape how we think about current events. Although federal officials have found no evidence of vote-tampering, the damage is already done: over 50 percent of Democrats in a recent YouGov poll think Russians hacked actual vote tallies to help Trump. This conspiracy theory rivals the belief that President Obama is a Kenyan Muslim.
    Michael Cleply, a former New York Times reporter, wrote after the election that his editors often assigned stories to him with prepackaged narratives. His job was to gather facts and comments from sources to support the storyline. This is not “reporting.” It is little wonder that many people distrust mainstream media.

    http://www.tennessean.com/story/opinion/2017/01/13/fake-news-physician-heal-thyself/96489786/

  28. Rev.Hoagie® says:

    The objective isn’t to get over Trumpski, but to get rid of him. Stay tuned.

    Again, we hear ya. That’s how we felt about Obama. I’m just saying it’s not mentally healthy to have your entire life revolve around hate. Even for Trump.

    When you are rational you make a great leftist to discuss things with but when you go all he’s a racisthomophobeislamophobebigotliar on us we have no alternative than turn the “off” switch. And that accomplishes nothing.

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