Warmists Seriously Hoping For Favorable Outcome On Polluter Pays Law

It’s always wild how Warmists, who use vast amounts of fossil fuels and energy in their own lives, always want Other People to pay. But, of course, never realize that they will end up paying themselves

Court decision on NYS ‘polluter pays’ law is not final outcome on climate change costs

New York is waiting to see the outcome of a separate court decision to find out the fate of its Climate Change Superfund law. Monday, a federal judge in the Northern District of New York struck down the measure, saying it was an overreach of state authority on an issue that should be addressed by Washington.

The law called for New York to collect up to $75 Billion from companies that caused climate change impacts over a 25-year period by extracting or burning fossil fuels that contributed more than a billion tons of greenhouse gas emissions. (snip)

He noted there are other cases, including one in the Southern District of New York, challenging the same law. That case could come to a different decision, “there’s definitely a lot of unknowns about the next step, but this is far from over, I think, in the sense that this is just one district court making one decision.”

Ladin said the court decision and the law itself raises the issue of responsibility.

“I would say that the basic question is, as a society, who do we expect to pay for the harms of climate change? Because we can’t pretend that there are no harms. We know that there are harms. We know storms are getting worse. We know flooding is getting worse. We know extreme weather is getting worse. And it costs a lot of money to deal with that and to adapt to it.,” said Ladin.

I expect those who complain to pay based on their Beliefs

The impacts of climate change are inevitable, he contended, and residents could have influence, “then this is either a question for a state government if the courts change their mind, on appeal, or it’s a question for the federal government and people should make sure that they make their voices heard.”

So, if they’re inevitable, then why bother?

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4 Responses to “Warmists Seriously Hoping For Favorable Outcome On Polluter Pays Law”

  1. Dana says:

    Our esteemed host began:

    It’s always wild how Warmists, who use vast amounts of fossil fuels and energy in their own lives, always want Other People to pay. But, of course, never realize that they will end up paying themselves.

    They never realize that they’ll wind up paying because they are economically illiterate. But, to be fair, not a few conservatives have the same problem. Politicians both Democrat and Republican have tried to hide the fact that corporations pay no taxes at all; they simply collect taxes from their customers, until the end user of every good or service winds up paying all taxes on it.

    “It’s always wild how Warmists, who use vast amounts of fossil fuels and energy in their own lives” is absolutely correct: liberalism is a primarily urban problem, and urbanites tend to use more energy in their lives simply in living: the urban heat island effect means that they use more electricity, 61% of which in New York is generated by burning natural gas, for air conditioning. In many apartment buildings, the windows can’t be opened, and apartments have fewer windows anyway, so the urbanites are using air conditioning at temperatures in which people in detached houses just open the windows. Urbanites tend to eat at restaurants more frequently than people in small towns or out in rural areas, because apartments are more cramped and restaurants are physically closer. While public transportation is more available in urban areas, the vast majority still have automobiles, and when they drive, they are more likely to be stuck in traffic.

    It was 73.4º F at 7:00 AM here, and was 77.7º F with 99% humidity when I went to bed at 10:00 PM last night, but the A/C was off and the windows open. The A/C is still off, though the forecast is for 94º this afternoon, so I’ll almost certainly use it later. Apartment dwellers would have been using their A/C the entire time, due to lack of breezes and ability to open their windows.

    Actually, the door is wide open, for the dogs, my three plus a guest dog, can go in and out as they choose, and that promotes more air flow.

    • Elwood P. Dowd says:

      The vast majority of Americans live in urban and suburban areas (80%) yet the political donor class has engineered a government controlled by acreage, not persons!

      Mr Dana slurs those he slurs as “warmists” as economically illiterate, with his only evidence being that they correctly understand that corporate taxes are NOT completely passed to consumers. We hope he doean’t feel that tariffs are paid by the ecporting country!!

      BTW, it’s ruralites who survive on government largesse! You’re welcome!!

  2. Alias says:

    Dana a quick Google search would tell you that people in cities use less energy than people living in either suburbs or rural areas. Americans use about 500% more energy heating than cooling. Urban dwellers also use significantly less energy for transportation
    You really should try to use data more than feelings when making critical analysis. The information is free and easily accessed

    The average KY residential usage is 1000kwh per month
    Coned estimated the typical use at 300kwh per month
    The average NYC kwh per month is 300
    Very easy to verify Dana
    We do pay 200% higher per kwh but we use 333% fewer kwh
    NYC drivers also have low monthly gasoline costs of about 150 dollars per month vs KY $175

    The avg household income in NYC is 130,000 dollars

  3. Alias says:

    This summer I used AC for a total of 4 days. I live in 12th floor and my windows open my apartment has 5 windows that open. I live in Parkchester Condominiums in zip 10462 (AOCs district) all of the 100 buildings on 100 acres were built in the 30s before AC and have windows in 2 directions
    Again easy to verify of learn about from wiki
    I also have a pair of red tailed hawks that visit and eat on my AC window unit
    I can send a pic to Teach if he will post.
    Such is life under the chains of socialism

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