Before we get to that, let’s see what the Spite House is doing
U.S. bars flight from landing with Americans from Kabul – activists
The Department of Homeland Security on Tuesday denied U.S. landing rights for a charter plane carrying more than 100 Americans and U.S. green card holders evacuated from Afghanistan, organizers of the flight said.
“They will not allow a charter on an international flight into a U.S. port of entry,” Bryan Stern, a founder of non-profit group Project Dynamo, said of the department’s Customs and Border Protection agency.
Of course, the U.S. government is giving some bullshit answers on “vetting” and stuff, even as the official channels brought in all sorts with zero vetting (not too mention leaving the border wide open)
Generals Contradict Biden, But WH Insists Otherwise
The Biden administration never expected congressional oversight to be comfortable, but even as lawmakers were busy grilling top military brass Tuesday about their handling of the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, Jen Psaki said the hearing was necessary and good.
“We feel this is a part of democracy,â€Â the press secretary explained from the White House podium. After all, she continued, President Biden “welcomes the candor†and “welcomes the debate.†That candor is a reflection of his leadership, “and that’s the kind of president that he will continue to be.â€
All the same, this hearing was particularly problematic for the president. Just hours before Psaki embraced the oversight, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley and the head of U.S. Central Command, Gen. Frank McKenzie, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that they had recommended keeping at least 2,500 U.S. troops in Afghanistan to prevent the country from collapsing. The obvious problem: Biden had gone on the record in August saying he never got that advice.
The president told ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos that his military advisers did not recommend leaving a residual force, insisting that “no one said that to me, that I can recall.†Now, the White House says a closer reading of the transcript shows Biden was referring to “a split†between generals who argued a residual force was necessary and those who said it was not. “So, what should everybody take from that?†Psaki asked reporters, setting up the answer to her own question. “There was a range of viewpoints.â€
Milley and McKenzie, as their testimony made clear Tuesday, were on the losing side of that argument. Who were the military commanders who won the debate? For now, that remains a mystery.
Someone’s lying. What reason would Milley and McKenzie have for lying? Perhaps there is some CYA, but, if push comes to shove, do they have the proof? The conversation is surely recorded, and there are certainly transcripts and other recordings. We have Biden saying no one told him to leave troops there. Who made the decision to pull the troops leading to the collapse and put American citizens in danger?
Now, just imagine this happened under Trump or a Republican president? It would be front page, top story of all the major media outlets. It’s not even a mention at the NY Times, and, at the Washington Post, no direct headline, just a “contentious Senate hearing.” We’d be seeing something more like
Tragic cost of Biden’s Afghanistan lies: Goodwin
Biden lied, they died.
That’s no longer just an accusation. It’s now a fact, with Tuesday’s Senate testimony shredding President Biden’s nonsensical fictions about Afghanistan and confirming that he alone made the fateful decisions that created the chaotic and deadly withdrawal.Â
We now know for certain what was suspected all along — that the president rejected the advice of his top military aides about how to reduce the troop numbers while keeping the Taliban in check. He also falsely claimed to the public that al Qaeda was no longer in Afghanistan and declared the withdrawal a ringing success.
Reluctantly, but clearly, his commanders begged to differ. One by one, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley and head of U.S. Central Command Gen. Kenneth McKenzie said they advised the president either to keep 2,500 troops in Kabul or supported the proposal. (snip)
The immediate impact of his fateful decision for a complete withdrawal by Aug. 31 included the deaths of 13 service members in the airport suicide bomb attack. Had the US kept hold of Bagram Air Base, it almost certainly would have been able to impose better security in the surrounding area and evacuate more Americans and those Afghans we promised to get out.
American citizens were left behind, and all the Afghans who worked with the U.S. and our allies are in danger. Those left alive, of course, since so many have been killed. There would be furious articles, op-eds, and editorials blasting Biden were he a Republican.
Apparently Joey can’t “recall” a lot of things said to him.
Recent memory loss is a common sign of dementia.
#TrustMe
Bwaha! Lolgf
That corrupt fake has been lying his entire political life. Why would anyone believe anything the clown says? I realize all politicians lie like rugs but this creep is king.
He didn’t lie, exactly, he just said he couldn’t recall it. I do believe that, because he’s clearly a refrigerator light bulb pretending to be 100 watts.
The U.S. had already agreed to withdraw by May 1. Biden stretched that out to August 31.
As has been clear for more than a decade, the U.S. failed in Afghanistan. The majority of Afghans were not willing to fight for a corrupt government installed by the U.S. Corruption was so bad, many of their soldiers hadn’t even been paid in months, and their officers and political leaders were holding on to golden parachutes.
Of course you, Elwood and Hairy are deliberately missing the point.
It was not whether the US would leave Afghanistan, but how.
Trump’s plan included a phased withdrawal. The Generals recommended a phased withdrawal.
Biden disregarded the initial plan, disregarded the military experts, and then left the Taliban with billions of dollars in equipment that was scheduled to come back to the US.
Biden then said he doesn’t remember talking about 2,500 troops on the ground as the US withdrew.
That alone should be troubling to people, but not the left leaning commenters here.
So either Biden lied, or is too far gone mentally to remember critical discussions and to make decisions on those discussions.
gitarcarver: Trump’s plan included a phased withdrawal.
The phased withdrawal depended on the Afghan Armed Forces being able to hold the ground.
gitarcarver: then left the Taliban with billions of dollars in equipment that was scheduled to come back to the US.
Most of the equipment left behind was provided to the Afghan Armed Forces.
Nation Stunned That 20-Year Catastrophe Could End So Catastrophically
False. The phased withdrawal was based on the US defending itself until dependents, employees, and most units were gone.
That’s what the 2,500 troops on the ground were supposed to be for.
The forces that didn’t exist?
If they aren’t going to use it, you blow it up or take it with you.
Biden screwed the pooch and you and others are trying to cover for him.
He didn’t lie. He just read the talking points. Like Jeff.
Perfesser Hail tRump just reads the talking points. And sucks ass.
Who was dumb enough to think that misbegotten ear would end nicely
Remember please Trump promised the Taliban to get out quicker
They may not have liked it if we had decided to stay longer than we promised
As a part of a phased withdrawal.
Your military mental acuity is about as good as your mental acuity on everything else.
That’s funny.
You think somehow that the US should care what the Taliban says or likes? Or maybe you like the Taliban because they hate women as much as your religion does.
The Taliban was warned not to interfere with the exit under Biden and they did.
The US response was nothing other than to leave equipment to arm the Taliban to a greater degree.
Good plan and one that you like because you hate the US.
After all, all the left has is hate.
gitarcarver: The Taliban was warned not to interfere with the exit under Biden and they did.
They didn’t interfere. They even waited outside Kabul until the Americans gave the go-ahead.
gitarcarver: The US response was nothing other than to leave equipment to arm the Taliban to a greater degree.
Most of the equipment left behind was provided to the Afghan Armed Forces.
Nation Stunned That 20-Year Catastrophe Could End So Catastrophically
Once again, no. The Taliban moved into areas they were not supposed to be. That was part of the testimony that the US said they couldn’t (wouldn’t) do anything in certain areas because the Taliban was already there against prior agreements.
The forces that didn’t exist?
If they aren’t going to use it, you blow it up or take it with you.
Thanks for the cite from the Onion though. That made me laugh.
gitarcarver: The Taliban moved into areas they were not supposed to be.
That was not part of the Doha Agreement.
gitarcarver: The forces that didn’t exist?
That’s right. The U.S. provided arms to the Afghan Armed Forces in the expectation that they would be able to hold Afghanistan, at least in the near term.