Utah is not playing
Utah protesters face charges with potential life sentence
Some Black Lives Matter protesters in Salt Lake City could face up to life in prison if they’re convicted of splashing red paint and smashing windows during a protest, a potential punishment that stands out among demonstrators arrested around the country and one that critics say doesn’t fit the alleged crime.
The felony criminal mischief charges are more serious because they carry a gang enhancement. Prosecutors said Wednesday that’s justified because the protesters worked together to cause thousands of dollars in damage, but watchdogs called the use of the 1990s-era law troubling, especially in the context of criminal justice reform and minority communities.
“This is so far beyond just the enforcement of the law, it feels retaliatory,†said Madalena McNeil, who is facing a potential life sentence over felony criminal mischief and riot charges. Charging documents say she bought red paint at a Home Depot before the July 9 demonstration sparked by a fatal police shooting ruling. She later yelled at and shifted her weight as if to slam into police during the demonstration, charges state. “It’s really frustrating and scary … I just feel so much concern for what this means for the right to protest in general.â€
Just like the federal bill of rights, the Utah Constitution also mentions protesting peaceably (Article 1, Section 1). These people were not protesting peaceably. They weren’t protesting, they were violent. Perhaps the charges were too much, but, let’s face it, these folks, so many who style themselves as Antifa, are involved in organized violence.
The Utah demonstrators are unlikely to serve prison time, said Salt Lake County District Attorney Sim Gill. Though they’d get at least five years if convicted as charged, criminal cases often end with a plea to lesser counts. (snip)
Still, he argued “there’s some people who want to engage in protest, but they want to be absolved of absolved of any behavior,†he said. “This is not about protest, this is about people who are engaging in criminal conduct.â€
And that’s what it is. And it does distract from the core message. Really, do people care that much anymore?
“We have to have some agreement of what constitutes protected First Amendment speech,†Gill said. “When you cross that threshold, should you be held accountable or not?â€
Once it becomes violent, 1st protections end. And throwing paint, damaging buildings, assault, and so forth are not protected. As the old saying goes “if you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.”
Really not too smart rioting at the DA’s office.
Enjoy the rest of your life sugartits.
Lolgf
They won’t lock ’em up for life, but, let’s face it, most of these snowflakes couldn’t do thirty days.
In an episode of NCIS, Jethro Gibbs tells these two teenaged guys in college, as he’s trying to sweat them out, “Believe me, son, you will not do well in prison.”
Why is tRump and the far-right so frightened of these snowflakes? All these wimps and pussies and you far-right tough-guys are absolutely piss-your-panties terrified that if they win they’ll annihilate you.
Isn’t that special?
Man/child,
Please be here next week. I want to see your reaction to what is going to happen. MAGA.
Perchance, good sir, are you referring to this?
Boogaloo Bois and QAnon too!! Let the Purge begin!
Why are Jeffery and the far-Left so frightened of these snowflakes who don’t even exist? All these wimps and pussies and you far-Left soi bois are absolutely piss-your-panties terrified that if they win they’ll annihilate you.
FIFY
We’ll type slowly that even Sibley the Idiot can understand, at least in part.
You tRumpists characterize the protesters, in fact all lib/prog/Dems, as wimps, pussies and snowflakes, and all connies as real men (and the women that fear them), yet your campaign position is to terrify potential voters that these wimps, pussies and snowflakes are going to herd them into boxcars to extermination camps.
Why are you terrified by wimps, pussies, soy boys and snowflakes, who according to you tRump and connies, are a minority? It doesn’t make sense, does it? But then neither “consistency” nor “sense” have never been connie strengths.
And to emphasize my point, let’s go live to Ft Collins.
People are getting fed up with you and all your hooligans.
So you approve of right-wing riots. Got it.
Frightened?
They’re the best thing that could happen. They guarantee a Trump landslide.
But I thought these were all peaceful protesters. That’s what you said before. They burn down the homes of your homies. They destroy the businesses of your soul brothers. They hand the black vote to Trump.
But, yeah, give them the reins of power and they’d go wild. There’s an old saying that goes there’s nothing more dangerous than a coward with a gun.
Sounds just like you.
I’m sure you’re hoping they’ll give you a job at Dachau-on-the-Brazos, but you’re the kind that goes to the wall first. They’d want to know why you weren’t out there destroying in the name of a common thug. They’ve already got Democrat mayors begging .
We understand that the only way these snowflakes can win is if we don’t fight back, so we are fighting back. If decent people fight back against the snowflakes — who, by definition, are not decent people — we win.
So you approve of right-wing riots. Got it.
I approve of Conservatives refusing to be intimidated and Left-wing rioters being cut off and thrown out before they gang up on some little old lady. That’s about all you seem to be good for and even that’s coming to an end.
Edward,
Did you view the video? Fat white cowardly rioters (a gang chasing others out of their neighborhood) attacked the peaceful counter protesters. You connies always seek a numerical advantage. We especially liked the fat guy stabbing with a flag on a staff at a counterprotester. Brave!
I approve of liberals refusing to be intimidated and right-wing white supremacists being cut off and thrown out.
peaceful counter protesters
Like the ones in Portland, right?
I approve of liberals refusing to be intimidated and right-wing white supremacists being cut off and thrown out.
Too bad that’s not what happened. Get used to it, you’re going to see a whole lot more.
Edward,
In Portland it wasn’t fat, white pseudo-patriots attacking peaceful protesters it was police and federales shooting moms.
In Colorado Springs it was fat, white pseudo-patriots attacking peaceful protesters who were backing away when attacked.
The typical American connie is a coward unless he has a clear advantage, ya know, numbers or guns.
You’re repeating yourself.
Gotta make sure everybody sees you jumping up and down like a trained ape.
J-is it a peaceful protest when a police station is set on fire? Enquiring minds want to know…..https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2020/08/09/after-burning-police-union-portland-rioters-threaten-nearby-house-were-gonna-burn-your-building-down-n767345
Didn’t see any fat guys. Did see people who weren’t going to be shouted down. Lefties always attack people with their backs turned. Face to face scares them. They weren’t expecting that. And CO is pretty Lefty, so I’m betting your side is hemorrhaging people these days.
Also saw Antifa creeps backing up like the cowards they are. Good thing the cops showed up.
Edward typed: Didn’t see any fat guys proving he didn’t watch the video.
Should shouting be met by force? What about a pickup with a confederate battle flag driving through a peaceful neighborhood? Are OK with the fat white extremist being pulled from his truck and beaten? Sounds like it.
In fact, the counter protesters were backing away, avoiding conflict when the fat extremists attacked.
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/08/09/antifa-gets-wrecked-in-colorado-neighborhood-you-guys-came-to-the-wrong-city-boys-and-girls-957920
I saw the vid. I just don’t accept your pejoratives.
What about a pickup with a confederate battle flag driving through a peaceful neighborhood?
What about it? You seem to be the one looking for a fight. Well, not you; you haven’t got the guts.
In fact, the counter protesters were backing away, avoiding conflict when the fat extremists attacked.
No, they were taken aback by the resistance I’m sure they thought wasn’t going to happen. I take it you think shouting in public is an attack. I know you don’t see it that way if it’s BLM.
We’ll type slowly that even Sibley the Idiot can understand, at least in part.
I’m not the one who has to have Mommy read everything to him so he understands it.
You tRumpists characterize the protesters, in fact all lib/prog/Dems, as wimps, pussies and snowflakes, and all connies as real men (and the women that fear them), yet your campaign position is to terrify potential voters that these wimps, pussies and snowflakes are going to herd them into boxcars to extermination camps.
Which campaign position is that? Show us the ad, if it exists.
And, yes, your stormtroopers are wimps, pussies, girly men, and snowflakes. They’re great at ganging up on individuals, be they male, female (only 2 genders on our side), young, old, or any other dichotomy you care to name. And ICYMI all those SS types that were swell at murdering unarmed people ran like the cowards they were when confronted with armed troops.
As I say, nothing more dangerous than a coward with a gun.
Why are you terrified by wimps, pussies, soy boys and snowflakes, who according to you tRump and connies, are a minority? It doesn’t make sense, does it? But then neither “consistency†nor “sense†have never been connie strengths.
I’ll say it again, they’re the best thing that could happen. They guarantee a Trump landslide.
Have you heard how gun sales are up? 40% were first time owners and 40% of them were women. Sales among blacks are up better than 50%.
All this comes on the heels of your riots over a phony martyr. Every one of those new owners knows the Demos have abandoned them and that the cops aren’t coming. Sounds pretty damned Conservative to me.
Edward,
Our local gun shop had a line outside yesterday waiting to get in, and a full parking lot.
This always happens when society is as unstable as tRump’s Amerika has become. People are worried about their futures and rightly so. tRump rewarded the rich with billions and continues to punish the poor and working classes during the pandemic. 80% of Americans think the nation is on the wrong path. The pandemic has adversely affected Blacks, women, Hispanics, poor whites, teachers, clerks, cooks, waitstaff more than white collar workers. The trillions spent went to bolster Wall Street and to make corporations and millionaires whole. The working classes receiving an extra $600 week unemployment benefit have lost that and will now start being evicted as they can’t make rent. Many workers have lost their employment-based healthcare. Connies who still have jobs, money or gov’t subsidies consider these American Blacks, women, Hispanics, poor whites, teachers, clerks, cooks and waitstaff as lazy grifters.
We’re all concerned about when tRump’s goatroper followers come a callin’ in November, but my current collection of arms is adequate.
This always happens when society is as unstable as tRump’s Amerika has become.
Funny, best gun salesman this country ever had was the Mocha Messiah. You mean that kind of unstable.
And it’s the Demos that have created the panic. Society isn’t unstable. The hooligans are finally getting the smack in the mouth they have coming, now that people realize the Commies running their cities will not allow the cops to interfere.
Many workers have lost their employment-based healthcare.
Thank Fauxci and all the geniuses at CDC and their social distancing. Also thank all the democrat governors and mayors finally able to enjoy that power trip they’ve always lusted after.
blacks, women, Hispanics, poor whites, teachers, clerks, cooks and waitstaff as lazy grifters.
Wait till they all vote for Trump this Fall. Then we’ll see who calls who what.
We’re all concerned about when tRump’s goatroper followers come a callin’ in November, but my current collection of arms is adequate.
I didn’t know they still made cap pistols. And, if any of those whatever they’re supposed to be, we all know you will be running like the chlamydial pussy you are.
Edward should come a callin’ with his MAGA cap one day.
I know I won’t see you.
Edward should also note that MO is a stand your ground state.
So? You’ll still run like a coward.
Edward,
In Portland it wasn’t fat, white pseudo-patriots attacking peaceful protesters it was police and federales shooting moms.
In Colorado Springs it was fat, white pseudo-patriots attacking peaceful protesters who were backing away when attacked.
The typical American connie is a coward unless he has a clear advantage, ya know, numbers or guns.
How many “moms” were shot, exactly? Those “Moms” were a bunch of professional Lesbians trying to make some media points.
And there were no peaceful protesters. They burned down in the city in 2 months of phony riots.
In CO, Antifa came looking to break up a rally. They were run off by the ralliers. I can imagine how dispiriting that must be. People aren’t afraid of them any more.
The typical American connie is a coward unless he has a clear advantage, ya know, numbers or guns.
Tell it to the Feds blinded by the lasers. The “accuse them of what we do” rap only works when people can’t see what’s really going on.
Careful there bro you are denigrating Whites, Fat people and patriots all in the same sentence. It will not be long before you are cancelled and they are pounding on your door for shaming fat people.
Now because you used the word white and patriot that gets you a lot of BLM brownie points but FAT?
You are so screwed dude.
Jeffery is scared out of what little wits he has. People resisting, refusing to be intimidated, not letting thugs take away their rights, throwing the hooligans out of the neighborhood.
This is not what Uncle Saul promised.
And now Jeffery wants to turn the same people who gang up on little old ladies and defenseless kids into victims.
Ain’t gonna work. We’ve all seen the knockout game and Antifa in action.
Time for you to change the subject.