On February 15th of this year, the Washington Post Editorial Board said that “Trump’s make-believe crisis is untethered from truth and reality.” This was to go with the many, many articles and op-eds saying there was no border crisis. And that has mostly continued till yesterday, when they ran a thinly veiled opinion hit-job on the front page saying that there is a border crisis. And now, they have a plan to deal with the border crisis
Neither Trump nor Democrats have a solution for the border. Here’s one.
IMAGINE THE United States could, from scratch, create an orderly, rational system to cope with asylum seekers at the Southern border — a regime at once efficient, humane and fair. It would process and adjudicate migrants in the border region relatively quickly (in days or weeks, not months or years), admit those with serious and verifiable claims, and deny and deport those without them. Catch-and-release would be unheard of; so would years-long processing times.
It would, in other words, look nothing like the status quo, which has bloomed into a crisis that has overwhelmed existing infrastructure and bureaucracy. Yet building such a system would be possible, and at a fraction of the price President Trump wants to spend erecting a wall that would do nothing to deter asylum seekers.
So, a crisis?
Unfortunately, neither Mr. Trump nor Democrats have advanced a blueprint to address the crisis. The president prefers fulminating, as though the migrant surge might evaporate in the face of his fury. Democrats, goaded into an oppositionist rut by the president’s harsh rhetoric and policies, are now at risk of being plausibly portrayed as a party indifferent to porous borders — a stance that is substantively wrong and could invite electoral disaster.
Trump could certainly do things differently, but, he did make the “build the border wall” bed, so….
As to the Democrats, they really are the party of indifference to a porous border, and have been for decades. Further, a good chunk of them are for Open Borders, as shown by their talking points and actions.
A cogent plan to cope with the tsunami of asylum-seeking migrants, mainly Central American families and unaccompanied minors, would start with hundreds more immigration judges to supplement the existing 400 or so whose backlog of roughly 800,000 cases means that hearings are now scheduled for 2021 and beyond. It would mean expanding and constructing detention centers near the border, suitable for families, that could accommodate many multiples of their current capacity while migrants await the adjudication of their cases. And it would probably entail congressional action that would permit authorities to hold families for more than the three weeks that court decrees have set as a limit on detentions that involve children. Crucially, the existence of a functional system would in short order begin to deter migrants without plausible asylum claims from embarking on the risky and expensive journey.
It is not a bad plan for dealing with the border crisis, particularly when politics become involved, and it works in its simplicity. It’s a better plan than most are offering. This is something that could be done out of Washington. For the most part, the Trump admin has asked for more immigration judges, funding for the judges, and reassigned judges to deal with the backlog. Democrats have objected. Right now, the DOJ is asking for $72 million for 100 new judges and attorneys to deal with the border crisis, because let’s not forget that it isn’t just judges, but that the illegals making false claims of asylum have to be represented.
Would it deter people showing up at the border demanding asylum? Would it deter people attempting to cross into the U.S. illegally? Probably not. Many would be hoping that the definitions of asylum would be expanded, or that they would be released while waiting for their hearing. Further, it would cost tax payers money to hold and feed people who are trying to force their way in.
A better plan would be to change the law so that all asylum claims would need to be made a U.S. facility outside the borders of the U.S., preferably the home country. Anyone who is provided asylum will be told that they must learn English, will only be provided government assistance for one year if necessary, after which they must have a job and provide for themselves and any family. Any criminal acts will see that person and the whole family deported. And, anyone caught showing up at the border demanding asylum will be turned away and anyone caught crossing illegally or found in the interior illegally will be put across the border immediately. No holding, just goodbye, do it the right way.
It’s nice to know that the WPEB has finally realized that there is, in fact, a crisis at the border.
“To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status.“
Porter Good wants what Donald Trump wants: To close the borders entirely, and allow in no immigrants whatsoever, under any circumstances.
After all, didn’t Dear Leader just say that “our country is full”?
What Trump wants is to entirely dismantle the immigration system in this country. And once again, Porter Good has agreed with Trump: Keep them out. They’re too fùcking brown to be here.
ICYMI He said he wants to tighten the rules, not shut them down.
Try this with people who can’t read.
And try your little provocation games elsewhere. Nobody talks Trumpkins b ut you and the most unlettered of trolls.
Where did anybody other than you mention color? Seems color is important to you, why? Trump wants to stop immigration until we get it under control. I want to have a moratorium on all immigration until we establish quotas, requirements such as learning English, and assimilate all the aliens who are already here. Is that unreasonable? We both want to put a halt to illegal immigration. Is that unreasonable?
It’s an open secret that “Make America Great Again” really means “Make America White Again”. Kye is stupidly pretending that no one but Good Little Trumpkins like himself knows this.
And Trump did not propose halting only illegal immigration. He wants to stop all immigration, indefinitely.
Yes, that is unreasonable — but it is exactly what Trump’s racist base wanted to hear.
Now, I gave ou several reasons I believe we need to stop ALL immigration at least for a wile. You stated that’s “unreasonable” but gave no supporting reason why.
Of course you once again resort to calling me and everyone you disagree with white nationalist/racist/prejudiced/bigots. Wow. You’re a one trick pony. An ignorant, closed minded one trick pony.
And you little graph and such is just so much radical left baloney it smells. Who did the poll the DNC?
“And you little graph and such is just so much radical left baloney it smells. Who did the poll the DNC?”
Kye once again proves himself too fùcking stupid to follow a link.
How does he get around the Internet? Or is his web browser just stuck on this site?
More epithets.
And he’s not only smart enough to see through you, he’s smart enough to see through a junk poll.
“Now, I gave ou several reasons I believe we need to stop ALL immigration”
Nope. Kye said he wanted immigration stopped. He gave no actual reasons for the stoppage.
But then, he is part of Trump’s base… so we already know why he wants to halt all immigration.
He said a moratorium on all immigration until we establish quotas, requirements such as learning English, and assimilate all the aliens who are already here
Well, we know your response is untrue.
That’s what untruthfuls do.
It’s an open secret that “Make America Great Again†really means “Make America White Againâ€.
It is? Then how come half of Hispanics and a sixth of blacks (maybe more) like the guy?
He wants to stop all immigration, indefinitely.
You have a quote, I hope.
“You have a quote, I hope.”
Of course.
“The system is full. We can’t take you anymore. Whether it’s asylum. Whether it’s anything you want. It’s illegal immigration,†Trump said. “Can’t take you anymore. Can’t take you. Our country is full… Can’t take you anymore, I’m sorry. So turn around. That’s the way it is.”
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When you put all these numbers together, they suggest two things. First, the most likely predictor of overt racism isn’t being white, conservative, or Republican. It’s supporting Trump. Second, among Trump fans, the racist constituency is significant. Twelve percent of strong Trump approvers express a favorable opinion of neo-Nazis, and 19 percent express a favorable view of white nationalists. Twenty-two percent of Trump voters say some white supremacists are “very fine people,†and 45 percent—a plurality—say whites face more discrimination than other groups do.
If Trump were to alienate these people, he’d lose a big chunk of his support. In the Morning Consult poll, he has a 39 percent approval rating. Many of the people in that 39 percent—more than 5 percent of the total sample—express a favorable view of white nationalists. Without their backing, Trump’s approval rating would fall below 34 percent. And the damage would cost him one-fifth of his base. Twenty percent of the Morning Consult sample strongly approve of Trump’s job performance. Without white-nationalist sympathizers, that number would drop to 16 percent.
I think there’s plenty of evidence that Trump is prejudiced. I also think a lot of his foot-dragging after Charlottesville was driven by ego, not animus. But regardless of his personal feelings, these polls make one thing clear: As his base shrinks, he’s more and more dependent not just on whites or conservatives, but on explicit racists.
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Sounds like the poll was taken by Max Boot…
Slate?? Really??
What they fail to mention, according to NPR_PBS poll where they ask if you agree or disagree with the beliefs of the KKK that 3% of strong Democrats and 1% of soft Democrats mostly agree with the KKK as opposed to 1% of strong republicans and 1% of soft Republicans who agree with the KKK. It also shows that 2% of liberals agree with the KKK as opposed to 1% of conservatives. And the kicker? 1% of whites agree with the KKK where 2% of African Americans and 6% of Latinos agree with the KKK. Looks to me like the biggest supporters of the KKK are Democrats, liberals, African Americans and Latinos. In that same poll those who agree with the white supremacist movement run along the same trends. 3% of strong Democrats approve along with 2% of soft Democrats, 4% of African Americans and 7% of Latinos.
The Morning Consult poll shows this same thing.
Looks to me like this KKK/White Supremacist support runs evenly regardless of political party and Trump support. In fact, it looks like the biggest supporters are African Americans and Latinos and is higher among Democrats than Republicans.
But leave it to Slate to leave all of that out just to slam on Trump supporters. This is why it’s called fake news.
“Slate?? Really??”
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Bill,
You have presented a bunch of trash, calling it reliable information then you make an appraisal of Trump. Who really cares what your opinion is? Most of the people here don’t seem to care. Unfortunately the internet allows people who are low information individuals with very poor logic to crow to the world how dumb they are, and you seem very talented in that respect. Keep it up so everyone knows how bad off liberals happen to be.
A PPP off Slate.
Wow, I’m impressed. Wanna show some crosstabs, sample size, MOE, what kind of voters?
First, it’s 2 years old. Second Charlottesville, still?
And the funny part
Public Policy Polling surveyed 887 registered voters from August 18th to 21st. The margin of error is +/- 3.3%. 80% of participants, selected through a list based sample, responded via the phone
MOE isn’t too bad, but a sample of 900 registered voters? Get real.
Junk poll. You need at least 3000 likely voters.
FWIW the Interwebz are all abuzz over the fact The God Emperor Of The Cherry Blossom Throne is at 53% approval.
Significant?
Zippy never polled above 46 any time in his third year.
Significant.
As much as I’d love to sit here and be insulted by an inferior being, Bill I don’t have the luxury of sitting in my mom’s basement harassing people like you do. I have to go because I’m having a big trading day and need the computer for something more important than a radical left NPC like you.
Oh, and once again you called me a coward. Exactly which service were you in and where did you fight?
“Oh, and once again you called me a coward. Exactly which service were you in and where did you fight?”
Exactly why is Kye afraid to discuss facts? That’s cowardice, no matter what branch of the military he served in.
I’m not afraid of anything you ass. I will not banter with a fool, it makes me look bad by association. All you do is troll here and paste and post propaganda from anti American deep left sites. Who needs that crap? I know I don’t. I’ve tried to talk with you reasonably but all you want to do is call people names and throw bullshit. I’m not interested. Go peddle your insane stupidity elsewhere I’m not interested in a big fat liar troll.
“I’m not afraid of anything you ass.”
Let’s see.
The following email was sent to Donald Trump Jr:
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On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Rob Goldstone wrote:
Good morning
Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.
The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump – helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.
Best
Rob Goldstone
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Direct question to Kye:
What was Donald Trump Jr’s exact, verbatim reply?
It’s a simple question.
Does Kye have the courage to answer it truthfully?
Who cares?
Ya see, David, that lying dumbass Mueller must have missed that piece of evidence but not the Bear.
It’s another conspiracy I tell ya.
April 11, 2019 at 4:03 pm
What actually happened was Trump Jr. Said something to the effect of AWESOME and they arranged a meeting in which the Russians REFUSED to give Trump and his people ANYTHING. This was investigated. By not only Mueller but the MSM. Trump released his emails regarding this because he probably surmised that Mueller had them already. Knowing Mueller was the type who wanted to entrap anyone coming in for a interview releaseing his emails almost immediately prevented Mueller from entrapping him during his very lengthy interview?
Why? Because he released everything he had to the special counsel and could simply say I forgot, dont remember you tell me I gave you the information and they would have no legal standing in regards to lying under oath.
This was heavily investigated. TRUMP said Hallelujah! Bring it on BABY. Meanwhile HRC was conspiring with UKRAINIANS and TODAY we get our first OBAMA WH AID being charged with lying about his dealings with UKRAINE.
Bill Bear is no doubt hired to go to right websites to keep the Russian Hoax alive because they believe lying and half truths will get them past the 2020’s and will keep Obama and HRC safe.
It will not. They already charged one Obama Liar and now the noose is starting to close on HRC and Obama and the corrupt FBI and DOJ officials who conspired with a treasonous attempt at removing a duly and capable president from office.
Bill Bear says:
April 11, 2019 at 4:52 pm
“What actually happened was Trump Jr. Said something to the effect of AWESOME and they arranged a meetingâ€
Ah, good.
Mangoldielocks has just confirmed that te Trump campaign id, in fact, attempt to collude with Russia to affect the outcome of the 2016 election.
Glad we got that settled.
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My brain just died with Bill Bears response. LOLOL.
Wow. Just wow. You know what I just did their Bill Bear.
I pretty much quoted VER BATIM CENK Uygar from the Young turks in a debate on the Russian Collusion hoax. Even HE and his network believes their was no collusion. However his real concern is Trumps financial dealings and always has been. Since Day one Cenk has been on the money trail not the FAKE RUSSIAN HOAX TRAIL.
However in the debate it was established that Manfort had his finances fully doxed and investigated to bring charges. It is understandable that they looked deeply into Trumps as well.
FOLLOW THE MONEY SHOUTS THE YOUNG TURKS
Okay:
March 3, 2018
WASHINGTON — George Nader, a Lebanese-American businessman, has hovered on the fringes of international diplomacy for three decades. He was a back-channel negotiator with Syria during the Clinton administration, reinvented himself as an adviser to the de facto ruler of the United Arab Emirates, and last year was a frequent visitor to President Trump’s White House.
Mr. Nader is now a focus of the investigation by Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel. In recent weeks, Mr. Mueller’s investigators have questioned Mr. Nader and have pressed witnesses for information about any possible attempts by the Emiratis to buy political influence by directing money to support Mr. Trump during the presidential campaign, according to people with knowledge of the discussions.
They nailed Manafort on finances and looked deeply into Trumps finances. Your weak attempts of trying to cover for HRC, Obama and the democrats is just that WEAK and Ill informed.
“You know what I just did their Bill Bear.”
Yes.
As I said, you confirmed that the Trump campaign did, in fact, attempt to collude with Russia to affect the outcome of the 2016 election.
866-273-4444 is the open line for reporting. He should call and let them know.
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