For the longest time, Conservatives have been hoping for elected Republicans that fight back against Democrats and the media. Trump is certainly not a Conservative, but, he was elected under the Republican tag, and, like him or loathe him, he fights back (full comments here)
(Fox News) President Trump, responding to criticism that he failed to condemn white supremacist groups forcefully enough after the Charlottesville, Va., protest violence, on Tuesday called out “alt-left” protesters for their actions that same day, asking, “Do they have any semblance of guilt?”
The defiant statements came during a wide-ranging Q&A at Trump Tower in New York. And they instantly inflamed the controversy all over again, a day after he tried to put the issue to rest with a statement specifically condemning white supremacists.
“There’s blame on both sides,” Trump said Tuesday, echoing the language he had used Saturday when he faulted “many sides.”
Trump went on to criticize the “alt-left” for their role in stoking unrest over the weekend.
“You had a group on one side that was bad, and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent, and nobody wants to say that,” Trump said. “You had a group on the other side that came charging in without a permit and they were very, very violent.”
He’s exactly correct. Antifa and other leftist groups didn’t come to Charlottesville to counter-protest peaceably: you do not wear masks nor bring clubs, bats, and other dangerous weapons if you’re looking to be peaceful. We’ve seen the same thing at plenty of Antifa demonstrations and at ones where they show up. And they’re usually the ones that start the violence and mayhem. They are despicable people, who use anti-white and anti-cop language, who are just as bigoted and racist as the neo-Nazis, skinheads, and KKK.
None of that means that the KKK, neo-Nazis, nor skinheads are to be absolved. They are also despicable people. They do share an utter loathing of Jews with Antifa and Democrats, but, regardless, their racial beliefs are horrible. There’s more than plenty of blame to go around.
Of course, some Republicans, such as Marco Rubio and GOP Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, had hissy fits, as mentioned in the story. Democrats too had fits, but, those are expected. So many like Rubio, Ros-Lehtinen, Pelosi, the Politico, and so forth, think it’s about “redirecting blame.” No, it’s about assigning blame. If al Qaeda and ISIS get in a war of words, which then escalates to violence, who’s at fault? That’s right, both.
The NY Times editorial board likewise is incensed that President Trump would note the violence from the “alt-left”. They call it a false equivalency. In other words, Trump is exactly correct. The Washington Post states that there may be a time for this debate, but, it’s not now. Why not? We’ve seen the violence from Antifa since the election, and different violence from Leftists for a long time.
When is the best time to discuss left side violence? We’re happy to discuss the moral degradation of neo-Nazis, skinheads, and the KKK (say, when will Robert “KKK” Byrd’s name be removed from all those things in West Virginia?). Let talk about the Left’s moral degradation at the same time.
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Dear President Trump:
On one side were a hundreds of white men affiliated with the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis and white nationalists, carrying torches and semi-automatic weapons, waving swastikas and confederate flags, throwing sieg hiels and KKK salutes, chanting “Blood and Soil!”, “Fuck you, faggots!” and “Jews will not replace us!”. The next day one on them drove his car into a crowd killing an innocent woman and injuring another score.
On the other side were people who didn’t do that.
Here’s what Republicans used to say:
– Ronald Reagan
#trumpmustgo
Yep, innocent peaceful little snowflakes they were.
Thanks, little jeffuckery.
When the Allies fought the Nazis in Europe there was a lot of violence from both sides. Both sides were at fault.
TEACH lied (once again…):
1. tRumpler didn’t merely mention violence from the counter-protest, he equated the punches and catcalls with inherent violence of the heavily armed Nazis, KKK and white supremacists who killed an innocent women and sent more to the hospital. The Allies were violent with the Nazis in Europe, probably even committed some atrocities, but the sides were not morally equivalent.
2. It was hardly just leftists who were upset with tRumpler’s meltdown. Conservative commentators and Republicans and moderates were too. If everyone who disagrees with tRumpler on this issue is a leftist than we have an America with 75% leftists.
The KKK, neo-Nazis and white Supremacists are no longer welcome in America. tRumpler invited them back and he and the GOP will pay the price. The former party of Lincoln can salvage themselves today but it means throwing Trump under the bus (where he belongs).
Jeez, equating the Allies with the violent leftists is really a stretch even for you, little jeffuckery.
Keep posting your nonsense, little dumbass.
So, we can discriminate against others. I thought the country was past that concept.
Some more of little jeffuckery’s “moral” leftists at work.
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/college-republican-attacked-antifa-vigil-woman-killed-charlottesville
Actually letting the KKK and the Facists (Antifa) meet on a large grassy field surrounded by police, and arresting the survivors would work to solve the problem permanently.
Heather Heyer’s family is still waiting for a call.
So why don’t you call them?
And how do you know that they have not received one?
stosh,
A better solution would be for President Trump to condemn, without reservation, the unAmerican neo-Nazis, Ku Klux Klan and white Supremacists, and for the American people to force them back under their rocks. We all know they are around but they do not deserve the light of day.
Understand the objectives of the neo-Nazis, Ku Klux Klan and white supremacists: To make the United States of America a homogeneous nation of white christians.
It is tragic that the President of the United States agrees with them.
Yes, and he should denounce the BLM, black panthers, and NAACP. All racist organizations, with communist ties. When did Trump say he agrees with the socialist? It is clear that you do.
Waah!!! Waah!!!
“Tough guy” Christopher Cantwell cries like a baby because the libs are so mean to him.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/im-terrified-neo-nazi-blubbers-like-a-baby-in-video-reporting-hes-wanted-for-arrest-in-charlottesville/
What a fucking whiny titty baby.
Here’s a video report from the white Supremacist riot:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/charlottesville-vice-documentary_us_59930983e4b09071f69cc8f6?ncid=engmodushpmg00000003
Really, Trump, these are the “good people” you support?
Jeff,
You refer to two sites that are well known for fake news and bizarre view points. I don’t know Cantwell, but you do, how? Otherwise you call him a tough guy for no reason. You do that a lot, making people out to be other than what they are. As to Trump, he applied the concept of using force and hurting others to both sides. What is wrong with that? You seem to be so upset about a woman that was killed, standing in the street, blocking traffic with her body and harmed when a young man rear ended a car trying to get away from individuals tryin to harm him. Now, I don’t condone his actions. He will face a jury and will likely not receive a significant judgement. To me, it looked like the left leaning people were doing most of the violent actions, just like in other instances of people trying to exercise their free speech rights. The right leaning people apparently came ready for just such activity. What I see is that your hate is really apparent and you distort everything that you see. Truth is not a commodity that you value. And, like I have said before, your views are more compatible with the Nazis than any other group.
dave,
You must not have watched any of the videos from the neo-Nazi riot. Cantwell was one of the leaders, was carrying 3 pistols, and said he would kill people if needed. Then, boohoo… LOL.
He thinks tRump is not racist enough because he “gave” his daughter Ivanka to a Jew (Kushner).
When these vile white Supremacists march with their torches, AR-15s, Nazi insignias, swastikas, chanting “Blood and Soil”, “Jews Will Not Replace Us”, “Fuck You, Faggots”, they will be met with resistance. Do you realize that the Nazis killed some 6 million men, women and children, Jews, Poles, Russians, gays, Roma… The KKK tortured and killed thousands. Nazis are bad. The KKK is bad.
How do tRump’s daughter, son-in-law and grandchildren tolerate this anti-semitism from the President? How does Gary Cohn?
Every CEO on his advisory board dumped him, because their corporations couldn’t be associated with tRump. The Joint Chiefs defied him.
You might consider this all to be fake news, but facts are facts. Decent America will not go back to those days.
#tRumpmustgo
Jeff,
Nazi killed 20 million. Now, no one is discounting that neo Nazis where up to no good. But so were the leftist crap. Now, I know you are not right in the head, but it is obvious to anyone that Trump is not anti semetic KKK, did bad things, so have many other organizations. I can tell you right now you are being played by Duke. Keep it up and give him more power.