Say, What About Those Secret Trump Voters?

Could this be a real thing?

GOP insiders: Polls don’t capture secret Trump vote

Those battleground state polls that paint such a grim picture of Donald Trump’s prospects against Hillary Clinton? Most Republican insiders don’t believe they’re accurately capturing Trump’s true level of support.

That’s according to the POLITICO Caucus — a panel of activists, strategists and operatives in 11 key battleground states. More than seven-in-10 GOP insiders, 71 percent, say the polls understate Trump’s support because voters don’t want to admit to pollsters that they are backing the controversial Republican nominee.

“I’m not sure how big a factor it is, but there is definitely a ‘Bradley effect’ going on out there,” said a Virginia Republican, referring to the African-American mayor of Los Angeles who led in polls but lost unexpectedly in the 1982 California gubernatorial race. “I personally know many Republicans that won’t admit that they are voting for Trump. I don’t like admitting it myself. It won’t matter if Hillary is up more than 5 points, but we might be in for a surprise if Hillary’s lead is less than 5 points on Election Day.”

A Michigan Republican — who, like all insiders, completed the survey anonymously —added that Trump voters are reticent to admit it publicly: “Anecdotally, that’s clearly the case in barber-shop conversations.”

Every time I hear this kind of schtick on the radio or TV, or in articles, I roll my eyes. It sounds rather wishful and divorced from reality, does it not? But, what if it is real? What if there are tons of people who refuse to admit that they are voting for Trump, including to pollsters? We’ve seen some massive flipping of polls over the past few months, and especially in the past few weeks. I’m not quite sure why someone would refuse to tell a pollster who they’re voting for, but, could you see it happen, with people not wanting to admit they’re voting for Trump?

Where the big difference could be made is within the #NeverTrump and GOP fence sitter #NeverHillary community. What if all these millions of Republicans decide to vote for Trump at the last minute? Usually, I would have hit the early voting booth yesterday, having the day off, but, I’m holding out till next week, to see if Trump can give me a reason to vote for him, at least as a vote against Hillary. Or, do I simply not vote president, and just vote down ballot? That’s the conundrum. Many, many more might be facing the same prospect.

Even 26% of Democrats think the polls underestimate Trump’s support, while 71% of Republicans think the polls understate.

It’s a long, long article, worth the read. And it does beg the question: could this mean more actual votes for Trump (with a goodly chunk being protest votes against Hillary) than thought of ?

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50 Responses to “Say, What About Those Secret Trump Voters?”

  1. Dana says:

    Our host wrote:

    What if there are tons of people who refuse to admit that they are voting for Trump, including to pollsters? We’ve seen some massive flipping of polls over the past few months, and especially in the past few weeks. I’m not quite sure why someone would refuse to tell a pollster who they’re voting for, but, could you see it happen, with people not wanting to admit they’re voting for Trump?

    It isn’t much of an endorsement to think that there are people out there who support Donald Trump but are embarrassed to admit it.

    However, the pollsters have been wrong rather a lot recently, and wrong to the liberal side. They predicted squeakers for Benjamin Netanyahu and the Conservatives in The UK, and were surprised by the large victory margins. The “remain” side was s’posed to win the Brexit vote; they got that wrong. The pollsters were surprised by the margins in the Canadian elections, though that was an error to the right, not the left.

    The pollsters are having problems with the loss of landlines and so many people going cell only; they are trying to figure it out, but aren’t quite there yet.

    I really can’t imagine Donald Trump winning, but it could happen.

  2. Hank_M says:

    Dana, a lot of people won’t admit they’re voting for Trump. And it isn’t that they’re embarrassed about it.

    They’re just tired of being berated, belittled and lectured by those on the left when the subject comes up.

  3. Jeffery says:

    Every election supporters of the trailing candidates insist the polls are wrong and more will come out for their guy and fewer for the other guy. Yet, national polls taken during the final week of every presidential election since 1976 have picked the winner every time except 2000 where they showed George W. Bush ahead by 2 but Gore won the popular (voter turnout was higher than expected).

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-the-polls-disagree-and-thats-ok/?ex_cid=2016-forecast

    Still, this year could be different. If the average of national polls draws to a few % points by the election Trump can pull it out. Maybe an inept, unfit president will get the citizenry off their keisters and demand responsible governance for the first time in decades. Maybe Trump can lead by being a bad example.

  4. Liam Thomas says:

    Trump in a poll done yesterday is now garnering 16 percent of the Black vote…..3x’s more then McCain and Romney.

    In addition his latino vote is edging higher and higher….showing an erosion of support for what is clearly becoming a criminal in HRC and her mafia army of controllers.

    With the I hate Bernie followers attitude among the left or in short a divided house much as the gop is divided…..we have a race that is being polled very incorrectly….

    TRUMP simply has to hammer 3 or 4 themes over and over….not say anything to be used against him….and let the constant filth oozzeeeeeeee out from these emails and its all over….

    HRC is so exhausted she campaigns twice a week now….Trump is 16 hours a day every day non stop…..

    Its fun watching this……As trump starts showing more and more moderate views he is bringing in more independents and starting to attract support from the base of the left who are outraged behind closed doors at HRC and her Criminality.

    This is gonna be a hand wringer folks…..

  5. o0Nighthawk0o says:

    I don’t think it’s so much about people not wanting to admit that they are voting Trump as it is the pollsters missing those who will vote Trump.

    Every one I have talked to has never been polled. Even the Trump supporters online are asking who is being polled because it isn’t them.

    I look at the rallies too. The smallest Trump rally has 10X the attendees as the largest Clinton rally.

    I also hear from a lot of different places in the country and they all say the same, that they see many, many Trump signs in people’s yards but very few Clinton signs. The same goes for bumper stickers.

    Add to that, the polls are weighted with more Democrats being polled and of course they will show Clinton ahead.

    I think that on election day the Trump supporters are going to be at the polls in record numbers and all these ‘experts’ are in for a huge surprise.

  6. MikeG says:

    Nobody thought Reagan had a chance against Carter based on the Election night polls, and voila, we got Reagan in a landslide. I see this as a very similar circumstance. The Obama years have devastated many just like the Carter years did, and Blacks have been feeling pretty abandoned by him lately. No one wanted to say they would vote for the “Dunce” and I think many today think the same about Trump. Trump will surely disappoint many Conservatives, but so would any of the other Republican choices we had. Trump is a wildcard, but Hillary is a known quantity, and what we know about her Presidency should scare the bejesus out of all of us.

  7. Jeffery says:

    I look at the rallies too. The smallest Trump rally has 10X the attendees as the largest Clinton rally.

    This is what CNN and MSNBC were saying in 2012. All the energy and excitement was with Romney! The polls were wrong!

    The polls were qualitatively right but missed how much Obama would win by.

    The Dems GOTV strategies usually trump the Repubs Suppress the Vote strategies. We’ll see.

  8. Jeffery says:

    Breaking News: Obama plans to go house to house on Nov 8 taking your guns! Please stay home and protect your homes!

  9. Liam Thomas says:

    Breaking news….

    Obama pardons the next president of all crimes and misdemeanors before she even takes office.

  10. Jeffery says:

    Obama pardons the next president of all crimes and misdemeanors before she even takes office

    .

    Good idea. Maybe the Benghazi Boyz in the House can spend a little time doing the People’s work.

  11. Liam Thomas says:

    “I’m troubled by the revelation that you and this campaign actually discussed ‘using’ Eric Garner … Why would you want to ‘use my dad?” she said. “These people will co opt anything to push their agenda. Police violence is not the same as gun violence.

  12. Liam Thomas says:

    News flash 5 people given amnesty over a NON CRIME by Hillary.

    News flash….FBI Asst Deputy in charge of the HRC email investigation has the clinton mafia give his wife nearly 800k supposedly for her FAILED state senate campaign….

    News flash….16 percent of blacks support Trump now….3x the numbers that supported Romney and McCain.

    News Flash Trumps hispanic support rising all across the nation.

    News Flash….how many Bernie supporters constantly trashed by HRC in the email leaks are actually going to go to the polls and vote for HRC.

    News Flash….Polls tightening again….Trump once down by 11 is now back to between a tie and 5 percent….ABC had him down by 12…another poll had him down by 14.

    News Flash….DEWEY WINS!! DEWEY WINS!!….

    Good idea. Maybe the Benghazi Boyz in the House can spend a little time doing the People’s work.

    Excellent Idea…the instant that a GOP gets in trouble….Trump can pardon them….after all Obama will have set the prescedent.

  13. Jon King says:

    Ha, shy Trump supporters? On what planet? Trumpers are loud and proud, in your face. People with Hillary bumper stickers are given the finger and have their stickers stolen. Wear a Hillary T shirt and Trump supporters will get right in your face. I highly doubt Trumpers are too shy to tell an automated calling poll who they will vote for.

  14. Liam Thomas says:

    NEWS FLASH

    The FBI REOPENS CLINTON INVESTIGATION OF THE HRC EMAIL SERVER!!!!

    NEWS FLASH….the people are speaking and this country DOES STILL BELONG TO THE PEOPLE>>>>ALL OF THEM NOT JUST THOSE ON THE LEFT PROTECTED BY A COMMUNIST PRESS.

  15. Liam Thomas says:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html

    GOTTA LOVE IT….Comey is now shitting his pants as he realizes he could very well be facing 30 years in prison for doing what he just did for Hillary Clinton…..its sorta again the law to take bribes and oh how much worse it is to be the head of the FBI and taking bribes.

    IF hillary wins….the only way she can avoid going down for this is to be pardoned by Obama……Look for it before he leaves office if she is elected….and look for then your revolution that John and Jeffry are scoffing at.

  16. Liam Thomas says:

    FBI letter to Congress on Clinton email probe

    My bad the above rant was directed at THIS LINK…….

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/28/fbi-letter-to-congress-on-clinton-email-probe.html

  17. Rev.Hoagie® says:

    The leftists are doing a bang up job of ripping our country apart. I don’t know which is worse, their lies, their corruption, their theft or their hypocrisy. No matter how low leftists go they still can’t hit bottom. Perhaps a revolution is in order.

  18. Liam Thomas says:

    emails found in Anthony Weiner case
    Published October 28, 2016 FoxNews.com
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    Now Playing

    FBI reopens investigation into Hillary Clinton’s email use

    The FBI has reopened its investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private server while secretary of state after discovering new emails – apparently during the probe of former Rep. Anthony Weiner’s sexting – in a stunning turn of events just days before the presidential election.

    FBI Director James Comey wrote in a letter to top members of Congress Friday that the bureau has “learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation.”

    The top aide to HRC was WEINER’S WIFE……its rather pertinent I would say that they seized his devices and seem to have found a ton of classified information on his phones directly from Clinton.com

    Yeah….HRC is going to need that pardon soon….and even if she wins…She will spend her entire 4 years defending her criminality rather then leading the country……I have to ask….Does even the left want this chick in office….I mean those old justices wanting to retire can wait 4 more years for Liz Warren or Michelle Obama to become the next Prez…

    Providing they dont run their own private servers…..

  19. Liam Thomas says:

    NEWS FLASH!!

    HRC PAYS THUGS 1500.00 and a NEW IPHONE to incite violence at trump rallies.

    NEWS FLASH!!

    John Podesta’s relatives were paid lobbyists at the state department.

    NEWS FLASH!!

    Bill Clinton is a certified Sexual Assaulter forced to pay 800k settlement to keep his assault out of court….but sexual assault is only a crime if a republican does it I guess.

    NEWS FLASH!!

    In April, Politico reported the senator’s opinion that the Democrats had been unfair to him, and the party’s national spokesman Mark Paustenbach passed on a quotation from Sanders vowing to fight on through California.
    “Spoken like someone who has never been a member of the Democratic Party and has no understanding of what we do,” Wasserman-Schultz reacted in an email dated April 24………….so all you bernie supporters are not loyal to the DNC if you support Bernie….I guess you fall into that basket of deplorables.

    OR THIS: (CN) — Democratic Party Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz repeatedly mocked Bernie Sanders and his staff in private while another top official floated using religion and hit pieces to undermine his campaign, emails published by WikiLeaks revealed Friday.

    NEWS FLASH!! HRC AND HER AIDS SEEN SWIMMING IN A CESSPOOL INSTEAD OF CAMPAIGNING…..reports that they were making water spouts in glee.

  20. Jeffery says:

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-emails-in-clinton-case-came-from-anthony-weiner%E2%80%99s-electronic-devices/ar-AAjwKRO?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

    It wasn’t disclosed if they found classified information. A President Clinton WILL spend a lot of time defending herself against Republican investigations.

  21. Liam Thomas says:

    A new email thread released Friday shows Podesta got a March 19 email from “Google” notifying him someone had his “password” and tried to sign in from Ukraine.

    The IT team told Podesta the message was legit and he should change his password. But it appears the email actually was a phishing ploy – and likely gave the world access to the contents of his account.

    LORD…this is the quality of people we are willing to put in office to defend this country…..

    They get fooled by a fake email…anyone with a brain knows you dont respond to an email to change your password….You log off….go to the site and change it yourself……

    WOW….Hillary has surrounded herself with nitwits and incompetents….I guess that makes her look smarter….

    You know as michael Moore said again last night :”you want the smartest man or woman in the room” Remember that from obama’s 2007 run for the white house.

  22. Liam Thomas says:

    LOLOL JEFFERY……

    Hows that cesspool water taste there bud?

    Why would the FBI reopen the case after getting into Weiners phones….You do remember that his wife is HRC’s main advisor? Right?

    So what would be on those phones that would make them reopen the case when the case was about………

    the mishandling of CLASSIFIED EMAILS in the first place.

  23. Jeffery says:

    So it’s been determined that there were classified emails involved?

  24. Liam Thomas says:

    I know your desperate there Jeffery….this could very well be the nail in the lefts coffin to take the White house and nominate those supremes….but cheer up…the senate will be owned by the 51 vote dems who will not let Trump do anything….

    Your justices will just have to wait 4 years to die.

  25. Jeffery says:

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/why-fbi-director-made-clinton-email-announcement-now/

    Under oath Comey had stated that the bureau had completed its review. Once he learned that there were new emails that required examination, Comey had to notify Congress that he had to amend his testimony because it was no longer true.

  26. Liam Thomas says:

    lololol….no whats happening is that there is a revolt within the FBI….courtesy of everyone who has friends inside the agency…..

    Comey was going to cover this up….the insiders say that the FBI was going to go public with in ala deep throat and end his career….He had no choice.

    The mans a liar and he runs the FBI…..otherwise he could have easily WAITED TILL AFTER THE ELECTION TO DROP THIS BOMBSHELL ON THE CAMPAIGN….

    He has anarchy within the Bureau….this is the smartest man in the rooms idea of people running things….They are bumbling idiots and the most transparent administration in history is likely to go down as the most corrupt EVER…..

  27. Liam Thomas says:

    LOLOLOL from your Link Jeffery………

    The truth is Comey didn’t have a choice. Because the new information followed his sworn testimony about the case, Comey was obligated by Department of Justice rules to keep the relevant committees apprised.

    AS I SAID …..he could have easily squelched this for 2 more weeks showing undue concern with the proper working of the FBI and making sure that these EMAILS did indeed have relevance to the investigation of HRC…..

    The facts are these……The FBI insiders tell everyone who will listen that there is anarchy within the FBI and they were going to go public with this if he didnt act immediately……….

    HE HAD NO CHOICE…..And if these emails were Huma talking to HRC about what dress she was going to wear….well then that is not relevant to the case….Obviously there is a smoking gun……..

    The smoking gun you and the left will be trying to Saul Alinsky for the next 12 days or so till you can get your MAFIA BOSS to the finish line.

    Disgraceful…and all the more reason why the left continues to fall down the garbage chute in the eyes of this country.

  28. Jeffery says:

    Did you not read the article from Newsweek?

    LOLOLOLOLOL. Believe what you will as you whistle past the GOP graveyard.

    Director Comey had to reveal the information or face charges himself for lying to Congress.

    The poor left. Winning the Presidency and the Senate. We probably can’t win the House in 2 yrs, but likely in 4 or 6.

    Every week the right has a smoking gun that will kill Clinton. This is no different.

  29. Liam Thomas says:

    and the Saul Alinsky starts….

    Just think of it this way….Huma got the Weiner and now HRC is getting the WEINER and the DNC might be brought down by the WEINER…..god bless the WEINERMAN!!

  30. Liam Thomas says:

    Did you not read the article from Newsweek?

    Do you watch fox news?

    No I do not read nor watch organizations who are in the tank for the left…Newsweek most certainly is one of those organizations.

    jeffery can you just imagine the damage control going on all over the DNC, HRC and the MSM right now….the hand wringing, the spin, the contortions, the lies and slight of hand they are thinking up to deflate this?

    Yeah It ticles me pink that Comey was forced to turn this over as early as he did…other wise he could have waited easily and the MSM, HRC and OBAMA could have swept this under the table….

    No it was going public with or without comeys support today…or tomorrow…his hand was simply forced.

    Spin it all you want…Im looking forward to all the crap the left throws on this fire…..see they only swim in cesspools so they dont have water to throw…only crap…..

    So sling er Jeffery….sling that crap.

  31. Jeffery says:

    Did you not read the letter from Comey to Congress? LOLOLOL

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/10/28/us/politics/fbi-letter.html?_r=0

    And an explanatory letter to the FBI:

    To All:

    This morning I sent a letter to Congress in connection with the Secretary Clinton email investigation.  Yesterday, the investigative team briefed me on their recommendation with respect to seeking access to emails that have recently been found in an unrelated case.  Because those emails appear to be pertinent to our investigation, I agreed that we should take appropriate steps to obtain and review them.

    Of course, we don’t ordinarily tell Congress about ongoing investigations, but here I feel an obligation to do so given that I testified repeatedly in recent months that our investigation was completed. I also think it would be misleading to the American people were we not to supplement the record.  At the same time, however, given that we don’t know the significance of this newly discovered collection of emails, I don’t want to create a misleading impression.  In trying to strike that balance, in a brief letter and in the middle of an election season, there is significant risk of being misunderstood, but I wanted you to hear directly from me about it.

    James Comey

  32. Jeffery says:

    There is no crap to sling. Only the truth.

  33. Rev.Hoagie® says:

    Killary, the corruptocrat running for president (when she’s not destroying government emails or taking money from foreign donors), just came out with this tid-bit:

    You know, I think people a long time ago made up their minds about the emails. I think that’s factored in to what people think, and now they’re choosing a President. So I would urge everybody to get and vote in all the states that have early voting, because I think Americans want a President who can lead our country, who can get the economy working for everyone, not just those at the top, and who can bring our country together.

    In other words: If you want to vote for a corrupt pig before she’s indicted do it soon! Anybody who would vote for this criminal bitch deserves to be jailed along with her. Maybe her perverted, impeached husband can get some young’uns to Martha’s Vineyard while she’s in Leavenworth. If they don’t mind an old dude with Herpes.

  34. Jeffery says:

    Rev (you must be a fundamentalist rev to be such a horrible dirtbag),

    Nearly 20% of the voters have already cast their votes – and it looks good for Hillary!

    Anyone who would vote for the serial sexual abuser criminal pedophile incestual pig manwhore deserves to be jailed along with him. That nasty old congenital liar manslut bottom bitch will be treated to a lot of big Black and Mexican dick in prison!

  35. Jeffery says:

    Just a typical conservative cheater:

    An Iowa Republican voter has been arrested for attempting to vote twice in the election. Terri Lynn Rote, 55, has been charged with first-degree election misconduct.
    The Hill cites a Des Moines Register report that Rote allegedly voted early at an election office in Des Moines but then attempted to cast another ballot at another location.

    Suppress the Dem vote and vote twice yourself.

    The Repuglicuns cannot win a free and fair national election.

  36. gitarcarver says:

    Anyone who would vote for the serial sexual abuser criminal pedophile incestual pig manwhore deserves to be jailed along with him. That nasty old congenital liar manslut bottom bitch will be treated to a lot of big Black and Mexican dick in prison!

    So I guess you have decided that based on the description above, you aren’t voting for Hillary.

  37. Rev.Hoagie® says:

    Hahahahahahahaha.

  38. Rev.Hoagie® says:

    Yeah!

    1. CHICAGO (CBS) — Susie Sallee was buried in 1998. Yet records show she voted in Chicago 12 years later.

    Victor Crosswell died in 1994, but records show he’s voted six times since then.

    And then there’s Floyd Stevens. Records show he’s voted 11 times since his death in 1993.

    “It’s crazy,” Sharon Stevens Anderson, Stevens’ daughter, tells CBS 2’s Pam Zekman. “I don’t see how people can be able to do something like that and get away with it.”

    Those are just a few of the cases CBS 2 Investigators found by merging Chicago Board of Election voter histories with the death master file from the Social Security Administration.

    In all, the analysis showed 119 dead people have voted a total of 229 times in Chicago in the last decade. This just scratches the surface. An estimated 7,000 fraudulent votes are cast in Chicago alone each election.

     

    2. Friday, October 28, 2016 08:02AM

    PHILADELPHIA (WPVI) —

    The key to one of the most contentious presidential elections in history could be right here in the Keystone state.

    Republican candidate Donald Trump has made allegations of fraud at polls in the City of Philadelphia.

    So, Action News dug through a decade’s worth of election and death records to see if there was any truth to the claim.

    Some of what Action News investigation found was stunning.

    Rita A. Pezzano, who passed a decade ago, was found listed as an active voter. Her daughter-in-law was shocked when we shared the news.

    “I was about seven months pregnant when she died,” said Audrey Marchiano.

    “So she has been dead about 10 years now?” asked Investigative Reporter Wendy Saltzman.

    “Yes,” said Marchiano.

    Pezzano passed in 2006. But state voting records show the South Philadelphia native still listed as an “Active Voter” who cast ballots in 2008, 2012, 2014, and the 2016 primary election.

    Wendy Saltzman asked Marchiano if there was any way Pezzano could have voted in 2016.

    “Not if she was dead,” Marchiano replied. “So no.”

    Our investigation also found Joseph B. Haggarty resting peacefully in a Bucks County cemetery. His grave marker confirmed he died in 2010, but records show he voted five years after his death.

    “Any chance he voted in 2015?” Wendy Saltzman asked a neighbor.

    “I’m sure he didn’t, personally. God rest his soul, he’s long gone,” he replied.

    Action News also found Paul Bunch, who died in 2006, also cast a vote in this year’s primary which was nearly ten years after death records show he died.

    Wendy Saltzman asked Bunch’s former neighbor if that seemed impossible.

    “I believe so. It sounds like it, unless he is coming back from the dead,” he said.

    Action News also visited the former neighborhood of Concetta Gallara. Records show she died in 2009, but voted in 2013.

    When asked if there was a way Gallara could have voted, her former neighbor Jeanie Pizzo told Saltzman, “I don’t know, it’s awfully funny. Unless a dead person came out of their grave.”

    This is all too common throughout all Philadelphia precincts sometimes reporting 105% of voters voting Democrat. That’s right: 105%!

     

    3. A woman in Hollywood, Maryland is the latest in a number of early voters to claim that her ballot was switched to Hillary Clinton after she had tried to vote for Donald Trump.

    Noting that she had seen reports on the news of votes being flipped, the woman said, “I went in and voted a straight Republican ticket and thank God I went back and checked and they had switched my vote from Trump to (Hillary).”

    She said that she had to get the vote changed back by alerting election officials, who simply told her to vote for a second time.

    “I went back the second time and made sure they didn’t change it,” she concluded.

    As we reported earlier this week, voters in numerous areas of Texas have made a series of complaints that votes are being switched from Trump to Clinton.

    4. By Patricia Mazzei, Monique O. Madan and David Smiley

    A 74-year-old woman tasked with opening envelopes sent by Miami-Dade County voters with their completed mail ballots was arrested Friday after co-workers caught her illegally marking ballots, resulting in an unknown — but small — number of fraudulent votes being cast for mayoral candidate Raquel Regalado.

    Investigators linked Gladys Coego, a temporary worker for the county elections department, to two fraudulent votes, but they suspect from witness testimony that she submitted several more.

    Coego, of Westchester, turned herself in to the Turner Guilford Knight Correctional Center on Friday morning. She was charged with two felony counts of marking another person’s ballot. Her bond was set at $10,000.

    In a separate election-fraud case, authorities also arrested a second woman for unlawfully filling out voter-registration forms on behalf of United for Care, the campaign to legalize medical marijuana in Florida.

    The Miami-Dade state attorney’s office accused Tomika Curgil, 33, of filling out forms for five people without their consent. She also submitted at least 17 forms for people who apparently don’t exist — and several forms for people who are dead.

    Police officers arrested Curgil at her Liberty City home Friday morning and charged her with five felony counts of submitting false voter-registration information. Her bond was set at $125,000.

    Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/article111029767.html#storylink=cpy

    5. A former resident of Alexandria, Virginia, is facing up to 40 years in prison after he allegedly used fake names to fill out voter registration applications.

    Vafalay Massaquoi, 30, is facing four felony charges related to allegations of voter registration fraud, the Commonwealth’s Attorney’s Office said. Each charge carries a maximum of 10 years in prison.

    In the spring of 2016, Massaquoi was registering new voters as an employee of a local advocacy group. According to the Commonwealth’s Attorney, Massaquoi fabricated applications and used fake names to fill out the registration forms.

    While the Commonwealth’s Attorney did not name the group Massaquoi was employed by, it appears he worked with the New Virginia Majority, an advocacy group aligned with the Democratic Party.

    Source: Man Charged With Filing Fake Voter Registration Applications in Va. | NBC4 Washington http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/politics/Man-Accused-With-Filing-Fake-Voter-Registration-Applications-399027631.html#ixzz4OOxzaRHo
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  39. Liam Thomas says:

    Anyone who would vote for the serial sexual abuser criminal pedophile incestual pig manwhore deserves to be jailed along with him. That nasty old congenital liar manslut bottom bitch will be treated to a lot of big Black and Mexican dick in prison!

    Laughable….this is the real Jeffery….His fondest desires are to round up every conservative and put them in the gulags he claims that obama and homeland security are secretly building…..

    This right here is the thinking on the left that has People like Obama and HRC swimming in that cesspool…this is their thinking…their thought process that allows them to believe that their lawlessness is justified because their ENEMIES are as described above……

  40. Dana says:

    Jeffrey wrote:

    It wasn’t disclosed if they found classified information. A President Clinton WILL spend a lot of time defending herself against Republican investigations.

    Director Comey had closed the investigation in September, much to the glee of the Democrats. Then, more stuff was found, and he announces that the investigation is being reopened, eleven days before the election. Mr Comey serves at the pleasure of the President; can you imagine him doing this if there was nothing really bad found?

    The only reason the Director would have announced this, so close to the election, is that something sufficiently bad was found that, if he didn’t reopen the investigation, FBI agents underneath him would have leaked it, immediately.

  41. Jeffery says:

    Nonsense. Just more lunatic fringe insinuendo!

  42. Jeffery says:

    Laim,

    But is was Trump who stated that, if elected, he’d put his political opponent in jail. It’s what right-wing fascists do.

    I don’t want all my misguided far-right brothers and sisters jailed, I want them to join with us and try to make America a better place for everyone – not just for white christian men.

    Is there any hope for the American far-right? I’d like to think so but I am not hopeful in that regard. You are so filled with authoritarian urges and hatred for the “other”. It’s who you are. Our right-wing authoritarian problem has been aided and abetted by our new electronic information age – RWA’s with their incapacity to evaluate evidence exist in a swamp of disinformation, misinformation, innuendo and outright lies. The polls are rigged to favor Dems! Voting fraud is rampant! AGW is a Chinese hoax! NOAA is cooking the books! Mexicans commit most of our murders! Muslims have a secret plan to take over America! Murders are off the charts! The MWM is in the tank for liberals! Conspiracy this, conspiracy that! Only Trump can fix it all!!

    We understand your pain and frustration. First an uppity negro fraudulently steals two elections – one from a true white patriot and one from a whiter business hero. The one white man who had the cajones to tell the world the negro wasn’t even an American was mocked and ridiculed (Alinsky 5) by the liberal MSM! Now “they’re” trying to force this “smarter than us” bitch on America, almost as if liberal Dems despise the white man. It’s reverse discrimination, that’s what it is!

    We feel your pain. A n****r prez, then a bitch prez, muzzies rejecting jesus, Spics speaking Mexican, women demanding equality, negroes demanding not to be shot, faggots picking their own bathrooms, climate change, lions and tigers and bears, oh my!

    From your perspective it must seem that the days of white christian male privilege are being eroded. A real man could call a spade a spade and grab a pussy whenever he wanted. When the privileged start to lose their privileges it feels like discrimination.

  43. Liam Thomas says:

    Ive said it before Jeffery you are the most racist person I have ever met.

    The right pales in comparison to the racism that oozzeess from the left……As soon as times get bad, the polls tighten….once again the left begins slinging the racist, anti-women, anti- anything claim at the right….because its their only message….
    dont vote for us cause we have solutions….just dont vote for the right because they are racists…….

    LOLOLOLOL….right on cue…………JEFFERY FLINGS THE RACIST CARD…..how original.

  44. Liam Thomas says:

    We feel your pain. A n****r prez, then a bitch prez, muzzies rejecting jesus, Spics speaking Mexican, women demanding equality, negroes demanding not to be shot, faggots picking their own bathrooms, climate change, lions and tigers and bears, oh my!

    What can be said Jeffery….projection is a sad part of your life….It must suck to be such a racist as you that you project your own beliefs onto other people….in hopes that it will somehow assuage your own inner demons.

    I have a good friend who is a very good clinical psychologist if you need a referral.

  45. Dana says:

    Jeffrey wrote:

    But is was Trump who stated that, if elected, he’d put his political opponent in jail. It’s what right-wing fascists do.

    He’d need for her to be found guilty of something in a court of law, and it seems that the evidence that she is guilty of something is mounting every day.

  46. Jeffery says:

    Laim,

    We are not surprised you have a close personal relationship with a clinical psychologist, but you offer no evidence supporting your claim that he/she is “good”. LOL

    Trump describes perfectly the America that RWA’s fear: Muslims beheading, Mexicans raping, Negroes shooting, tgs peeing… America is a cesspool that only Trump can fix!

  47. Rev.Hoagie® says:

    Wow. That is the most racist screed I’ve ever read on the net and I’ve read a few, Jeffery. You are one of the most hostile personalities I’ve ever encountered. After reading that hate filled diatribe a few times I can only conclude you need to seek psychological help. Your hate runs deep. Your hate of white people, your utter fear of Christians like they’re out to kill you, your condescending attitude toward blacks and Mexicans as if they are props in your tortured world of hate. You always believe the worst of other people because you are motivated by the worse in yourself. You’re rich, you’re white and you’re liberal so like others of your ilk you believe in some imaginary “white privilege” which is no more than guilt and project it on every white person erroneously believing the rest of us are filled with the hate that motivates you. Try again Jeffery. This problem with people’s race and your ability to lump people into groups for you to deem either good or bad is soul of a racist and a bigot. Get help before you hurt someone. You are becoming a danger to yourself and those around you.

    At least we finally got you to admit there is voter fraud. Baby steps. Some day you may grow into a mature person and cast off those childish notions and become a conservative. Hopefully then you will stop insulting other people on websites and stop going all hateful on people because they’re white or Christian or black or Mexican. Time will tell.

  48. Jeffery says:

    So I guess you have decided that based on the description above, you aren’t voting for Hillary.

    Au contraire! I plan to vote for her several times!

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