Comments on: Ireland Will Accept Two Gitmo Vacationers http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/07/29/ireland-will-accept-two-gitmo-vacationers/ Free societies are societies in which the right of dissent is protected Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:27:58 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: John Ryan http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/07/29/ireland-will-accept-two-gitmo-vacationers/comment-page-1/#comment-124679 John Ryan Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:11:46 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=9792#comment-124679 So far Trish the vast majority of those who were detained at Gitmo for 6 years have a;ready been released, this was done under Bush. As far as them being "enemy combatants" I think that 99% have been found by our courts not to be deserving of that term since there were no legal due process to determine that.AS far as your son is concerned I also agree that most fedaerl terms are far too long, perhaps under a Democratic Congress and a Democratic White House we may finally see some changes. Changes that have been a loooong time coming. Did you notice the age of the last detainee who was released by court order ? He was 12 years old when he confessed under torture to Afghan police that it was he who threw a grenade at US troops. That confession was the only evidence against him. So far Trish the vast majority of those who were detained at Gitmo for 6 years have a;ready been released, this was done under Bush. As far as them being “enemy combatants” I think that 99% have been found by our courts not to be deserving of that term since there were no legal due process to determine that.AS far as your son is concerned I also agree that most fedaerl terms are far too long, perhaps under a Democratic Congress and a Democratic White House we may finally see some changes. Changes that have been a loooong time coming. Did you notice the age of the last detainee who was released by court order ? He was 12 years old when he confessed under torture to Afghan police that it was he who threw a grenade at US troops. That confession was the only evidence against him.

]]> By: Trish http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/07/29/ireland-will-accept-two-gitmo-vacationers/comment-page-1/#comment-124667 Trish Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:34:10 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=9792#comment-124667 Oh boy, aren't you the knowledgable one? I do in fact try every day to work on our prison system, right now he has a possibly broken hand from basketball injury, and they've given him aspirin, no xrays. He is in dual custody, scheduled to go straight fed in the next year. I bust my a** off trying to fix things here, but get hopping mad at those who worry so mcuh about terrorists in Gitmo, or want to intermingle them with our kids. My son comitted a crime, wants to atone and deserves to do time, not as much as the feds gave him, but that's one thing we're working on. Meanwhile, he's in the middle of my state, and I only get to visit him about ten times a year. It's no joyride, and when he goes fed, he can be placed anywhere in the country. So, I feel sorry for our young men who get hooked on drugs, commit crimes and then actually have no family who care to visit them. More don't receive visits than do. I don't care about enemy combatants, and if some are released, then good for them. If not, they can stew as long as the young men in our country do. Sometimes for a lifetime. Oh boy, aren’t you the knowledgable one? I do in fact try every day to work on our prison system, right now he has a possibly broken hand from basketball injury, and they’ve given him aspirin, no xrays. He is in dual custody, scheduled to go straight fed in the next year. I bust my a** off trying to fix things here, but get hopping mad at those who worry so mcuh about terrorists in Gitmo, or want to intermingle them with our kids.
My son comitted a crime, wants to atone and deserves to do time, not as much as the feds gave him, but that’s one thing we’re working on. Meanwhile, he’s in the middle of my state, and I only get to visit him about ten times a year. It’s no joyride, and when he goes fed, he can be placed anywhere in the country. So, I feel sorry for our young men who get hooked on drugs, commit crimes and then actually have no family who care to visit them. More don’t receive visits than do. I don’t care about enemy combatants, and if some are released, then good for them. If not, they can stew as long as the young men in our country do. Sometimes for a lifetime.

]]> By: John Ryan http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/07/29/ireland-will-accept-two-gitmo-vacationers/comment-page-1/#comment-124665 John Ryan Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:45:59 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=9792#comment-124665 Trish WHO are you to tell me to shut up ?? Trish 600 of the 850 that were in Gitmo were released, by Bush. I take the side of the Constitution of the United States of America that says that ALL are presumed innocent until proven guilty. Apparently YOU do not. Apparently you think that confessions obtained under torture are valid and just. Have you been able to visit YOUR son ? No mothers in Gitmo are allowed that privilege. How often do you get phone calls from your son ? Maybe you should spend your time trying to change the conditions that prisoners in the USA have, is your son in Federal custody or state ? Trish WHO are you to tell me to shut up ?? Trish 600 of the 850 that were in Gitmo were released, by Bush. I take the side of the Constitution of the United States of America that says that ALL are presumed innocent until proven guilty. Apparently YOU do not. Apparently you think that confessions obtained under torture are valid and just. Have you been able to visit YOUR son ? No mothers in Gitmo are allowed that privilege. How often do you get phone calls from your son ? Maybe you should spend your time trying to change the conditions that prisoners in the USA have, is your son in Federal custody or state ?

]]> By: Trish http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/07/29/ireland-will-accept-two-gitmo-vacationers/comment-page-1/#comment-124660 Trish Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:48:21 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=9792#comment-124660 John, shut up. I have a son, our only son, in prison here in the good old USA, and trust me, I'd LOVE to see him in Gitmo. By all reports and standards, and from good information and my own experiences at our prisons, prisoners are far better treated in Gitmo than our citizens in the prisons that are right here on US soil. And, to add insult to injury, all of the prisoners who CONVERT to Islam, of which the numbers are skyrocketing, get treated far better than our Catholic son is. Matter of fact, no other religion gets such special treatment but Islam. Never convicted? Shut up again. Just because these are difficult to try, doesn't mean that one single one of them is innocent. I cannot believe you take the side of fearless hateful terrorists, against our country and our troops. To defend these people who would love nothing better than to kill Americans, is the limit for me. I will no longer take anything you say seriously. John, shut up.
I have a son, our only son, in prison here in the good old USA, and trust me, I’d LOVE to see him in Gitmo.
By all reports and standards, and from good information and my own experiences at our prisons, prisoners are far better treated in Gitmo than our citizens in the prisons that are right here on US soil.
And, to add insult to injury, all of the prisoners who CONVERT to Islam, of which the numbers are skyrocketing, get treated far better than our Catholic son is. Matter of fact, no other religion gets such special treatment but Islam.

Never convicted? Shut up again. Just because these are difficult to try, doesn’t mean that one single one of them is innocent. I cannot believe you take the side of fearless hateful terrorists, against our country and our troops.

To defend these people who would love nothing better than to kill Americans, is the limit for me. I will no longer take anything you say seriously.

]]> By: John Ryan http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/07/29/ireland-will-accept-two-gitmo-vacationers/comment-page-1/#comment-124658 John Ryan Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:33:28 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=9792#comment-124658 Of course these are guys who have never been convicted of anything right ? And of course after the humane and respectful treatment that they have received I am sure that they will harbor no ill feelings Of course these are guys who have never been convicted of anything right ? And of course after the humane and respectful treatment that they have received I am sure that they will harbor no ill feelings

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