Comments on: Ron Paul On Why He Chose To Vote Against Iran Resolution http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/06/20/ron-paul-on-why-he-chose-to-vote-against-iran-resolution/ If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:32:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Kenneth Allen http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/06/20/ron-paul-on-why-he-chose-to-vote-against-iran-resolution/comment-page-1/#comment-124071 Kenneth Allen Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:39:56 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=9204#comment-124071 I agree with Mr. Paul. His statement doesn't come across as meaning that we as citizens should not support the Iranian's quest for whatever justice they as a people are wont to mete, or for whatever type of government they are seeking. Rather he speaks towards limited government; the U.S. House of Representatives does not have as one of their roles the judgment of other governments in the internal affairs of their country. The right to meddle is not a role proper to the U.S. government in general. I agree with Mr. Paul.

His statement doesn’t come across as meaning that we as citizens should not support the Iranian’s quest for whatever justice they as a people are wont to mete, or for whatever type of government they are seeking.

Rather he speaks towards limited government; the U.S. House of Representatives does not have as one of their roles the judgment of other governments in the internal affairs of their country. The right to meddle is not a role proper to the U.S. government in general.

]]> By: This ain’t Hell, but you can see it from here » Blog Archive » Saturday morning links http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/06/20/ron-paul-on-why-he-chose-to-vote-against-iran-resolution/comment-page-1/#comment-124063 This ain’t Hell, but you can see it from here » Blog Archive » Saturday morning links Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:17:05 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=9204#comment-124063 [...] Teach at The Pirate’s Cove writes that although Ron Paul wants revolution here in America, it’s not such a good idea for [...] [...] Teach at The Pirate’s Cove writes that although Ron Paul wants revolution here in America, it’s not such a good idea for [...]

]]> By: Duncan http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/06/20/ron-paul-on-why-he-chose-to-vote-against-iran-resolution/comment-page-1/#comment-124062 Duncan Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:05:38 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=9204#comment-124062 I think Rep. Paul has an excellent point, of which I have discovered over the last 1 or so, is of many. I think his vote here is not so much a vote against the Iranian people but a protest vote against the politics of Washington, where we condemn are enemies for actions that are similar to what our so-called allies also do. Like you said Teach, sometimes we have to meddle, and I think that Dr./Rep Paul is doing his best to meddle in that putrid drained swamp of Washington D.C., and being the sole dissenter, his protest vote stands out strong and loud. Of course, it is being spun as poor, old, crazy Ron Paul out there voting against supporting the Iranian peoples protest. That is how they spun him during the election, as a crazy ol' man, and that is how they are going to continue to spin it. It is the only way they can delegitimize his arguments, especially when people immediately write him off. And don't get me started on the entire "we fought the civil war to end slavery" line. Lincoln himself said his first, and ultimate, concern was keep the Union intact, even at the barrel of a gun, slavery was but a side issue that could either be resolved, completely, partially or not at all at end of the conflict. I don't think a single State would have entered the Union had they known that they would be unable to leave it should it become oppressive. (And before one of the trolls starts claiming I support slavery because I think the "North" was the unjust aggressor, I will preemptively call you a moron. Slavery, and involuntary servitude, are abhorrent, especially to those of us who love Jefferson's phrase of Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness.) I think Rep. Paul has an excellent point, of which I have discovered over the last 1 or so, is of many. I think his vote here is not so much a vote against the Iranian people but a protest vote against the politics of Washington, where we condemn are enemies for actions that are similar to what our so-called allies also do. Like you said Teach, sometimes we have to meddle, and I think that Dr./Rep Paul is doing his best to meddle in that putrid drained swamp of Washington D.C., and being the sole dissenter, his protest vote stands out strong and loud. Of course, it is being spun as poor, old, crazy Ron Paul out there voting against supporting the Iranian peoples protest. That is how they spun him during the election, as a crazy ol’ man, and that is how they are going to continue to spin it. It is the only way they can delegitimize his arguments, especially when people immediately write him off.

And don’t get me started on the entire “we fought the civil war to end slavery” line. Lincoln himself said his first, and ultimate, concern was keep the Union intact, even at the barrel of a gun, slavery was but a side issue that could either be resolved, completely, partially or not at all at end of the conflict. I don’t think a single State would have entered the Union had they known that they would be unable to leave it should it become oppressive.

(And before one of the trolls starts claiming I support slavery because I think the “North” was the unjust aggressor, I will preemptively call you a moron. Slavery, and involuntary servitude, are abhorrent, especially to those of us who love Jefferson’s phrase of Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness.)

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