Comments on: AGW Today: It’s The Greatest Health Threat Of The 21st Century http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/05/15/agw-today-its-the-greatest-health-threat-of-the-21st-century/ Free societies are societies in which the right of dissent is protected Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:27:58 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Reasic http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/05/15/agw-today-its-the-greatest-health-threat-of-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-123669 Reasic Tue, 19 May 2009 13:06:18 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=8730#comment-123669 Teach, you are the king of unsubstantiated claims and generalities: <blockquote>...1st world governments threaten to, and will, deny aid to 3rd world countries that use DDT...</blockquote> Which governments? Give me some specifics -- names, links, articles, anything. True, Rachel Carson wrote a book, but she understood the concerns of disease vector control, and actually favored the controlled use of DDT to fight malaria. There has never been a ban on DDT for this use. <blockquote>Funny how how folks on your side of the argument rarely walk the talk though, eh?</blockquote> Who, specifically, and what have they failed to do? Funny how you're more convinced by baseless generalities about people, than by actual scientific evidence, eh? Every time I submit you with a scientific rebuttal to one of your countless nonsensical claims, you drop the argument. You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I know I'd definitely want to be sure that my opinion was supported by the facts. I know for a fact that yours is not. If you were truly interested in truth and objectivity, you would engage me in a friendly discussion on the subject, and then see where the facts lead us. You, however, always avoid such conversations, preferring instead to stick to your assumptions, red herrings, generalities, gossip, and partisan talking points on the issue. That's fine if that's what you prefer, but don't pretend to be concerned about the environment or the truth. You can't have it both ways. Teach, you are the king of unsubstantiated claims and generalities:

…1st world governments threaten to, and will, deny aid to 3rd world countries that use DDT…

Which governments? Give me some specifics — names, links, articles, anything. True, Rachel Carson wrote a book, but she understood the concerns of disease vector control, and actually favored the controlled use of DDT to fight malaria. There has never been a ban on DDT for this use.

Funny how how folks on your side of the argument rarely walk the talk though, eh?

Who, specifically, and what have they failed to do? Funny how you’re more convinced by baseless generalities about people, than by actual scientific evidence, eh?

Every time I submit you with a scientific rebuttal to one of your countless nonsensical claims, you drop the argument. You’re certainly entitled to your opinion, but I know I’d definitely want to be sure that my opinion was supported by the facts. I know for a fact that yours is not. If you were truly interested in truth and objectivity, you would engage me in a friendly discussion on the subject, and then see where the facts lead us. You, however, always avoid such conversations, preferring instead to stick to your assumptions, red herrings, generalities, gossip, and partisan talking points on the issue.

That’s fine if that’s what you prefer, but don’t pretend to be concerned about the environment or the truth. You can’t have it both ways.

]]> By: William Teach http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/05/15/agw-today-its-the-greatest-health-threat-of-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-123660 William Teach Tue, 19 May 2009 00:03:53 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=8730#comment-123660 Go look that up again, Reasic. While there is a small merit to egg shell thinning, 1st world governments threaten to, and will, deny aid to 3rd world countries that use DDT, the ones that need it the most, which leads to millions of human deaths. All because one lady had a freakout and wrote a book. You have your opinion of AGW, I have mine. Funny how how folks on your side of the argument rarely walk the talk though, eh? Go look that up again, Reasic. While there is a small merit to egg shell thinning, 1st world governments threaten to, and will, deny aid to 3rd world countries that use DDT, the ones that need it the most, which leads to millions of human deaths. All because one lady had a freakout and wrote a book.

You have your opinion of AGW, I have mine. Funny how how folks on your side of the argument rarely walk the talk though, eh?

]]> By: Reasic http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/05/15/agw-today-its-the-greatest-health-threat-of-the-21st-century/comment-page-1/#comment-123658 Reasic Mon, 18 May 2009 19:30:46 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=8730#comment-123658 I'm not going to touch the climate change issue in this one, because I've pointed out how you are wrong countless times, and you always end up ignoring my arguments. However, I will point out that you are also incorrect about DDT. DDT is not, nor was it intended to be, banned for use in the prevention of malaria. The ACTUAL concern was that DDT was being sprayed indiscriminately, which was not only bad for the environment, but was resulting in mosquitos building up a tolerance to the chemical. The chemical is known to be highly toxic to aquatic life, and also to cause eggshell thinning for many birds. So, how is it that you, a person who claims to be concerned about the environment, can ridicule efforts to control the use of a chemical that is toxic, is allowed for disease vector control, and for which there are viable substitutes? I’m not going to touch the climate change issue in this one, because I’ve pointed out how you are wrong countless times, and you always end up ignoring my arguments.

However, I will point out that you are also incorrect about DDT. DDT is not, nor was it intended to be, banned for use in the prevention of malaria. The ACTUAL concern was that DDT was being sprayed indiscriminately, which was not only bad for the environment, but was resulting in mosquitos building up a tolerance to the chemical.

The chemical is known to be highly toxic to aquatic life, and also to cause eggshell thinning for many birds.

So, how is it that you, a person who claims to be concerned about the environment, can ridicule efforts to control the use of a chemical that is toxic, is allowed for disease vector control, and for which there are viable substitutes?

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