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	<title>Comments on: AGW Today: Barry&#8217;s Forthcoming Green Job Losses And CFL&#8217;s</title>
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		<title>By: Reversing AGW Is Not The Point? &#187; Pirate&#8217;s Cove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reversing AGW Is Not The Point? &#187; Pirate&#8217;s Cove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 21:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the coming nationwide rolling blackouts, being forced to use compact florescent light-bulbs, losing 2 jobs for every 1 &#8220;green&#8221; created, etc and so on, are basically for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the coming nationwide rolling blackouts, being forced to use compact florescent light-bulbs, losing 2 jobs for every 1 &#8220;green&#8221; created, etc and so on, are basically for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: William Teach</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the probs with CFLs was finding just the right type for a lamp. I spent too much money finding just the right ones for a ceiling fan, but, in that case, was worth it, for their low heat output.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the probs with CFLs was finding just the right type for a lamp. I spent too much money finding just the right ones for a ceiling fan, but, in that case, was worth it, for their low heat output.</p>
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		<title>By: manbearpig</title>
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		<dc:creator>manbearpig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 04:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As nice as the thought of the overall cost savings were when I tried them, I never saw much of a difference in the longevity of the bulbs.  Plus, I just couldn&#039;t get past that funky light.  They gave me headaches, and I always felt as if I was straining to see when they were on.

What I would rather see time and energy spent on, is LED lights.  They are brighter, and from what I have read, both more efficient and longer lasting than both regular light bulbs and CFLs.  But again, they still have that funky light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As nice as the thought of the overall cost savings were when I tried them, I never saw much of a difference in the longevity of the bulbs.  Plus, I just couldn&#8217;t get past that funky light.  They gave me headaches, and I always felt as if I was straining to see when they were on.</p>
<p>What I would rather see time and energy spent on, is LED lights.  They are brighter, and from what I have read, both more efficient and longer lasting than both regular light bulbs and CFLs.  But again, they still have that funky light.</p>
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		<title>By: proof</title>
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		<dc:creator>proof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Initially, I bought CFLs for the cost savings, too! I didn&#039;t want to pay the utilities any more than I had to. Now, with the prospect of calling in a Hazmat team every time a bulb breaks, coupled with the idea that the government wants to take away my choice in the matter, is causing me to stock up on Mr. Edison&#039;s incandescent pride and joy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Initially, I bought CFLs for the cost savings, too! I didn&#8217;t want to pay the utilities any more than I had to. Now, with the prospect of calling in a Hazmat team every time a bulb breaks, coupled with the idea that the government wants to take away my choice in the matter, is causing me to stock up on Mr. Edison&#8217;s incandescent pride and joy!</p>
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		<title>By: William Teach</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve probably mentioned that I have given them up in the comments before, but, look, I liked them. I would typically spend about $7 on one, a bit more for a 3 way, and they would last for years. I learned to like them when I lived in a 3rd floor apartment which had little in the way of insulation in the living room, which had a vaulted ceiling. Could get hot really fast, and, CFLs kept the heat output down. Plus, again, they lasted a long time.

Nowadays, not so much. There are still about 2 lamps that have them, but, when they burn out, regular lamp time. They were burning out in not much more time then regular bulbs, so, the higher cost wasn&#039;t worth it.

What I would like to see is better use of regular flourescent types. I have one which has lasted 5 years. One of those floor lamps that shine up, and can change the output. I got it because it put out almost no heat, and provided excellent light.

Yeah, CFLs do have less mercury then a thermometer (have one of those, but, bought an electric one, too), but, they are more prone to be in a position to be broken if not disposed of correctly. That was another pain with the CFLs, because I will not throw them out in the garbage, instead, driving way up to the landfill disposal site, takes about 20 minutes to get there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve probably mentioned that I have given them up in the comments before, but, look, I liked them. I would typically spend about $7 on one, a bit more for a 3 way, and they would last for years. I learned to like them when I lived in a 3rd floor apartment which had little in the way of insulation in the living room, which had a vaulted ceiling. Could get hot really fast, and, CFLs kept the heat output down. Plus, again, they lasted a long time.</p>
<p>Nowadays, not so much. There are still about 2 lamps that have them, but, when they burn out, regular lamp time. They were burning out in not much more time then regular bulbs, so, the higher cost wasn&#8217;t worth it.</p>
<p>What I would like to see is better use of regular flourescent types. I have one which has lasted 5 years. One of those floor lamps that shine up, and can change the output. I got it because it put out almost no heat, and provided excellent light.</p>
<p>Yeah, CFLs do have less mercury then a thermometer (have one of those, but, bought an electric one, too), but, they are more prone to be in a position to be broken if not disposed of correctly. That was another pain with the CFLs, because I will not throw them out in the garbage, instead, driving way up to the landfill disposal site, takes about 20 minutes to get there.</p>
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		<title>By: John Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teach how much MORE do you figure  that you personally  were spending on CFLs  when compared to incandescent ? This is the first time that you have mentioned the adverse impact that CFLs have had on your life, even though  you have been using them for &quot;years&quot;  Also  thanks for not again misstating the  potential  for toxic mercury being released by these bulbs. There is 100 times as much mercury in a thermometer as in a CFL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teach how much MORE do you figure  that you personally  were spending on CFLs  when compared to incandescent ? This is the first time that you have mentioned the adverse impact that CFLs have had on your life, even though  you have been using them for &#8220;years&#8221;  Also  thanks for not again misstating the  potential  for toxic mercury being released by these bulbs. There is 100 times as much mercury in a thermometer as in a CFL</p>
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