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	<title>Comments on: AGW Today: N. Dakota Flooding Is Climate Change, Or Something</title>
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		<title>By: William Teach</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some great links there,  Robx, and, you are right, they had some massive snow this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some great links there,  Robx, and, you are right, they had some massive snow this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Robx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So lets see, GW is melting the northern ice cap, melting one side of the southern one, and increasing the other side, and causing so much snow in the mid-west that when it melts, and floods the lower areas of the valley below. Hmmm, interesting how GLOBAL warming seems to be so locally impactful in such dimetrically oppposed ways. 

Maybe people should look back a little bit further and ask why the earth has been warming for 18,000 years and back to when that whole area was under 1,000 feet of ice, and figure out why there were advancing and retreating giant ice sheets which created those valleys in PA which created the rivers that in the case of Johnstown was damned with an earthen dam to create a lake for a restort. The dam of corse failed, after years of warnings by the engineer which was ignored by restort. 

You might want to read about Milankovitch. 
In fact if you trust wikipedia, 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles

Here is a report from 96 about that years reduced risk:
http://www.publicaffairs.noaa.gov/pr96/mar96/noaa96-15.html

You see when you don&#039;t have a &quot;crisis&quot; to &quot;take advantage of&quot; and to hype the Al Gore Urgency Blimp seems to deflate, and the effects of flooding in the mid-west seem to be back to being just normal occurences. Seems to me I remember record snow fall this past winter...

Oh well here Noaa predicted it:
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oh/hic/nho/index.shtml

At Grand Forks , the Red River has a 100% chance of exceeding the major flood level of 46 feet or 18 feet above flood stage. The top of the Grand Forks dike system, built after the 1997 Red River flooding, is at a level of 60 feet. The Red River at Grand Forks has a 10% chance of exceeding 54.35 feet, the record flood level set on April 22, 1997. These outlooks are subject to change based on the timing of the Spring melt combined with future precipitation and any river ice-jam flooding. 

Thanks for your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So lets see, GW is melting the northern ice cap, melting one side of the southern one, and increasing the other side, and causing so much snow in the mid-west that when it melts, and floods the lower areas of the valley below. Hmmm, interesting how GLOBAL warming seems to be so locally impactful in such dimetrically oppposed ways. </p>
<p>Maybe people should look back a little bit further and ask why the earth has been warming for 18,000 years and back to when that whole area was under 1,000 feet of ice, and figure out why there were advancing and retreating giant ice sheets which created those valleys in PA which created the rivers that in the case of Johnstown was damned with an earthen dam to create a lake for a restort. The dam of corse failed, after years of warnings by the engineer which was ignored by restort. </p>
<p>You might want to read about Milankovitch.<br />
In fact if you trust wikipedia,<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles</a></p>
<p>Here is a report from 96 about that years reduced risk:<br />
<a href="http://www.publicaffairs.noaa.gov/pr96/mar96/noaa96-15.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.publicaffairs.noaa.gov/pr96/mar96/noaa96-15.html</a></p>
<p>You see when you don&#8217;t have a &#8220;crisis&#8221; to &#8220;take advantage of&#8221; and to hype the Al Gore Urgency Blimp seems to deflate, and the effects of flooding in the mid-west seem to be back to being just normal occurences. Seems to me I remember record snow fall this past winter&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh well here Noaa predicted it:<br />
<a href="http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oh/hic/nho/index.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oh/hic/nho/index.shtml</a></p>
<p>At Grand Forks , the Red River has a 100% chance of exceeding the major flood level of 46 feet or 18 feet above flood stage. The top of the Grand Forks dike system, built after the 1997 Red River flooding, is at a level of 60 feet. The Red River at Grand Forks has a 10% chance of exceeding 54.35 feet, the record flood level set on April 22, 1997. These outlooks are subject to change based on the timing of the Spring melt combined with future precipitation and any river ice-jam flooding. </p>
<p>Thanks for your time.</p>
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		<title>By: William Teach</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/03/26/agw-today-n-dakota-flooding-is-climate-change-or-something/comment-page-1/#comment-122893</link>
		<dc:creator>William Teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it is the biggest, maybe not. But, it happens, happened before and long ago, and will till the river dries up.

John, I believe in God, but I do not necessarily take the Bible as the all literal Word, since it was written by men.

But, hey, you never know, do ya? And, with the Mayan prophecies, after 2012, it might all not matter. Oh, man, the world could get really wacko leading up to Dec 24 2012. Could make the whole Y2K think look like chump change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it is the biggest, maybe not. But, it happens, happened before and long ago, and will till the river dries up.</p>
<p>John, I believe in God, but I do not necessarily take the Bible as the all literal Word, since it was written by men.</p>
<p>But, hey, you never know, do ya? And, with the Mayan prophecies, after 2012, it might all not matter. Oh, man, the world could get really wacko leading up to Dec 24 2012. Could make the whole Y2K think look like chump change.</p>
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		<title>By: John Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/03/26/agw-today-n-dakota-flooding-is-climate-change-or-something/comment-page-1/#comment-122892</link>
		<dc:creator>John Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And let&#039;s not forget the really BIG FLOOD Saturday Nov 16th 2343 B.C. which of course coincides with  a period of Global Warming. http://www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/lds/meridian/2003/deluge.html
You do of course believe in th ehistorical accuracy of the Great Book ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And let&#8217;s not forget the really BIG FLOOD Saturday Nov 16th 2343 B.C. which of course coincides with  a period of Global Warming. <a href="http://www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/lds/meridian/2003/deluge.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/lds/meridian/2003/deluge.html</a><br />
You do of course believe in th ehistorical accuracy of the Great Book ?</p>
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		<title>By: John Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Teach it floods every year but  this is THE BIGGEST FLOOD EVAH !!</description>
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