Comments on: Apparently, It Is Dumb To Ask For Physical Proof Regarding Obama

By: deane25

deane25 — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:47:00 +0000

Give it up, mantis. They’re on a Moebius strip, they just keep on arriving where they started. Infinity plus.

By: mantis

mantis — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:33:34 +0000

He could get a certified copy of his BC for a whopping $10 from the State of Hawaii.

The COLB is the certified copy, you delusional twit.

By: mantis

mantis — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:32:02 +0000

Mantis, he did NOT put his BC on line. He put a COLB that was printed within the last few years. NOT the same thing.

The original stays with the state, you idiot. They issue COLBs to people who request a copy. They don’t photocopy the original. What he posted is what they issue, from the very site you provided the url for. You are full of shit.

By: William Teach

William Teach — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:50:13 +0000

Mantis, he did NOT put his BC on line. He put a COLB that was printed within the last few years. NOT the same thing.

A COBC would be the same thing, ice9, if it was from way back around when he was born, rather then one printed within the last few years which, strangely, showed up first at the Daily Kos. McCain put his BC out there: why can’t Obama? He could get a certified copy of his BC for a whopping $10 from the State of Hawaii.

By: ice9

ice9 — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:56:04 +0000

My birth certificate is a “certificate of live birth”, as are all issued by Washington DC. That is the name of the document. In five minutes I determined that, as well as the fact that at least nine other states use the same terminology.

I’ll be watching for your gracious retraction of at least the part of the argument in which “certificate of live birth” is somehow not equivalent to “birth certificate” in Hawaii.

Anything other than a retraction or an evidenced counterclaim–in this case that Hawaii has two different documents on offer–would be conclusive proof that you are stupid or lying. I’d let you decide which.

ice

By: Flavor Flavius Julianus

Flavor Flavius Julianus — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:21:22 +0000

By God, I hope Sarah Palin, Joe the Plumber, and Truther-esque conspiracy theories are the future face of the GOP.

By: mantis

mantis — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:16:11 +0000

Mantis, no, I want to see it.

You have.

Obama could have put it on-line a 6 months ago and ended this speculation.

He did, yet the speculation continues. Shocking.

Furthermore, a person can get a copy of their birth certificate from the State of Hawaii (http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html)

Yeah, and you know what you get when you request that copy? A certificate of live birth. The form linked at Download Request For Certified Copy of Birth Record will get you the type of certificate that Obama has released. Or didn’t you notice there is no other birth record request on the Hawaii DOH site. You know why? Because there’s only one record they issue, the certificate of live birth. There are no other documents to request. You’re hanging your argument on an imaginary discrepancy. The site you point to gets you exactly what we have already seen. You are totally full of shit.

As far as the money goes, that is the cost to fight the lawsuits that have been filed, including the one that went to the Supreme COurt.

Says who? The voices in your head. You are totally full of shit.

By: William Teach

William Teach — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:42:55 +0000

Monk, the thing is, that COLB that is out there for Obama was printed recently. As mgordon points out, while he calls me moron :> , it says African as race. There are also indications that it was, in fact, printed in the last few years. I’d like to see something more original.

But, similar to Duncan, I am not going to make a big deal out of this, and if we never see it, OK. This post was more about Gail Kerr calling people crazy for wanting proof of Obama’s birth, after 8 years of folks on the left going nut over everything Bush did. Such as the firing of the attorneys. Even if it was for political reasons, they served at the pleasure of the President of the USA.

By: manbearpig

manbearpig — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:17:58 +0000

Nice use of the TM on ‘The One’, Duncan. That made me chortle.

By: Duncan

Duncan — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 05:20:02 +0000

Personally, I don’t care about this Birth Certificate thing anymore. I think it is a moot point now that Obama is President. Even if it is true, this country doesn’t need the duly elected President torn from office on what would amount to a technicality (an EXTREME technicality at that. His father was a non-citizen, and his mom, a citizen, hadn’t resided in the U.S. from age 14 for 5 years, because she was 18 at the time of his birth, if he was not born on U.S. soil as claimed, and the law has since changed), however important to the overall Constitutional process it might be. I think that an actual, official birth certificate (as opposed to an ‘certificate of live birth’, if there is any substantial difference between the two) would indeed put this to rest, otherwise it just feeds the conspiracy theories. Ofcourse, I can’t believe the same people who badgered the evil Bush White House non-stop and believed that “THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE” are now crying foul when The One™ is getting some of the Truther Treatment™. Pot, say hello to Kettle.

Plus, like some of the saner moonbats realized as they tried to impeach Bush, they’d end up with Darth Cheney, and then they’d really be whisked off the streets by men in black vans, just like in their fevered, drug-induced dreams. I might not like Obama, but DEAR LORD ABOVE could we actually stomach PRESIDENT Biden?