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	<title>Comments on: Barack Obama &#8211; Neo-Conservative (?)</title>
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		<title>By: Reasic</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/01/26/barack-obama-neo-conservative/comment-page-1/#comment-122017</link>
		<dc:creator>Reasic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Actually, Reasic, I have read multiple reports on that issue, both for, against, and in the middle with no spin. Not quite sure what to make of it yet.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you&#039;re &quot;not quite sure what to make of it yet&quot;, then why are you sharing only a denialist point of view on the subject with your readers?  Have you also provided the pro-Antarctic warming sources on your blog?  Have you read the RealClimate post on the research, or the actual paper itself?

&lt;blockquote&gt;But, remember, my dispute is not over warming, which happened, and could restart. My dispute is with Mankind being the primary or sole cause of global warming.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So if human activity is not the primary cause (and I will agree that it is not the sole cause) of global warming, then what is it?  You&#039;ve claimed it was the Sun, and also water vapor, but haven&#039;t responded to my rebuttals on those.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Actually, Reasic, I have read multiple reports on that issue, both for, against, and in the middle with no spin. Not quite sure what to make of it yet.</p></blockquote>
<p>If you&#8217;re &#8220;not quite sure what to make of it yet&#8221;, then why are you sharing only a denialist point of view on the subject with your readers?  Have you also provided the pro-Antarctic warming sources on your blog?  Have you read the RealClimate post on the research, or the actual paper itself?</p>
<blockquote><p>But, remember, my dispute is not over warming, which happened, and could restart. My dispute is with Mankind being the primary or sole cause of global warming.</p></blockquote>
<p>So if human activity is not the primary cause (and I will agree that it is not the sole cause) of global warming, then what is it?  You&#8217;ve claimed it was the Sun, and also water vapor, but haven&#8217;t responded to my rebuttals on those.</p>
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		<title>By: Silke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about you answer my question first and then I&#039;ll be happy to answer yours.  Thanks, Teach.   :) 

You have stated that methane has an effect. Why do you rule out CO2 (which lasts longer in the atmosphere and constitutes a much larger percentage of it)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about you answer my question first and then I&#8217;ll be happy to answer yours.  Thanks, Teach.   <img src='http://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>You have stated that methane has an effect. Why do you rule out CO2 (which lasts longer in the atmosphere and constitutes a much larger percentage of it)?</p>
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		<title>By: William Teach</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/01/26/barack-obama-neo-conservative/comment-page-1/#comment-122011</link>
		<dc:creator>William Teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say, Silke, what happened in the late 1800&#039;s? I&#039;ll give you a nice cookie if you get it right :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say, Silke, what happened in the late 1800&#8242;s? I&#8217;ll give you a nice cookie if you get it right <img src='http://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Silke</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/01/26/barack-obama-neo-conservative/comment-page-1/#comment-122006</link>
		<dc:creator>Silke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Teach said: But, remember, my dispute is not over warming, which happened, and could restart. My dispute is with Mankind being the primary or sole cause of global warming.&lt;/b&gt;

The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere was relatively constant from AD 800 until the late 1800s, at a level of 280 parts per million.  In the last century it has shot up to 380 parts per million – an increase of 36%.  

As the 2007 IPCC Fourth Assessment Report concluded, the observed warming from 1957 to now is extremely unlikely (5% chance) to result from ordinary climate variations.  Something must have forced it to change.  It is very likely (90% chance) that humans are responsible for the current warming trend.  No historical cause of climate change (significantly larger output from the sun, a significant change in our distance from the sun, etc.) is occurring now.  

As you have pointed out before, methane certainly has an effect.  Why do you rule out CO2 (which lasts longer in the atmosphere and constitutes a much larger percentage of it)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Teach said: But, remember, my dispute is not over warming, which happened, and could restart. My dispute is with Mankind being the primary or sole cause of global warming.</b></p>
<p>The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere was relatively constant from AD 800 until the late 1800s, at a level of 280 parts per million.  In the last century it has shot up to 380 parts per million – an increase of 36%.  </p>
<p>As the 2007 IPCC Fourth Assessment Report concluded, the observed warming from 1957 to now is extremely unlikely (5% chance) to result from ordinary climate variations.  Something must have forced it to change.  It is very likely (90% chance) that humans are responsible for the current warming trend.  No historical cause of climate change (significantly larger output from the sun, a significant change in our distance from the sun, etc.) is occurring now.  </p>
<p>As you have pointed out before, methane certainly has an effect.  Why do you rule out CO2 (which lasts longer in the atmosphere and constitutes a much larger percentage of it)?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/01/26/barack-obama-neo-conservative/comment-page-1/#comment-122005</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama 666 has demonstrated he is a neo conservative member of the Nationalist Socialist Workers Party as far as I can see.  Perhaps he can point out where in the Constitution he is allowed to require these standards or mandate them?

Next thing you know the politburo will tell us how much water we can flush in our toilets or the kind of lightbulbs we can buy....oops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama 666 has demonstrated he is a neo conservative member of the Nationalist Socialist Workers Party as far as I can see.  Perhaps he can point out where in the Constitution he is allowed to require these standards or mandate them?</p>
<p>Next thing you know the politburo will tell us how much water we can flush in our toilets or the kind of lightbulbs we can buy&#8230;.oops.</p>
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		<title>By: William Teach</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Reasic, I have read multiple reports on that issue, both for, against, and in the middle with no spin. Not quite sure what to make of it yet.

But, remember, my dispute is not over warming, which happened, and could restart. My dispute is with Mankind being the primary or sole cause of global warming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Reasic, I have read multiple reports on that issue, both for, against, and in the middle with no spin. Not quite sure what to make of it yet.</p>
<p>But, remember, my dispute is not over warming, which happened, and could restart. My dispute is with Mankind being the primary or sole cause of global warming.</p>
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		<title>By: Reasic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reasic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And, oh, Mann Made Global Warming Has Been Confirmed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You linked a news station&#039;s regurgitation of a blog post of a comment on a newspaper?!  Sheesh.  Way to do some real research...

Why not actually look at the paper itself, also check for an actual news article on it, or check an actual climate science blog reference to it?  RealClimate has a post:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/01/state-of-antarctica-red-or-blue/

Oh, wait.  That would mean actually &quot;considering ALL the evidence&quot;, which you don&#039;t do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And, oh, Mann Made Global Warming Has Been Confirmed.</p></blockquote>
<p>You linked a news station&#8217;s regurgitation of a blog post of a comment on a newspaper?!  Sheesh.  Way to do some real research&#8230;</p>
<p>Why not actually look at the paper itself, also check for an actual news article on it, or check an actual climate science blog reference to it?  RealClimate has a post:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/01/state-of-antarctica-red-or-blue/" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/01/state-of-antarctica-red-or-blue/</a></p>
<p>Oh, wait.  That would mean actually &#8220;considering ALL the evidence&#8221;, which you don&#8217;t do.</p>
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