The Constitution applies to the federal government. It is a list of rules and powers of the federal government. The Bill of Rights is a list of things the federal government may not do. Nowhere does it make an exception for non-citizens.

So, since you are all for closing G’itmo and the CIA centers, where do you propose we put them? How about a facility near your town, Silke? Is that acceptable?

Yes that’s acceptable and I wouldn’t be surprised if that actually happens since we are a military family. Being in harms way is nothing new.

You say tomato, I say a good fresh red sauce, Silke. It’s funny, because so many people on the Left and in the media have been comparing Obama to Lincoln and FDR. If memory serves, both of them did things to safeguard the USA which y’all would pitch hissy fits over if that happened today. Lincoln suspended habeas corpus, and ignored the 9th and 10th Amendments. FDR threw Japanese into camps.

And, FYI, the Constitution doesn’t apply to people who are not American citizens, unless we want it too.

So, since you are all for closing G’itmo and the CIA centers, where do you propose we put them? How about a facility near your town, Silke? Is that acceptable? If not, why not?

I noticed nothing of the sort. That’s your skewed interpretation, Teach. I happen to think upholding our Constitution is the best way to protect Americans – but that’s my skewed interpretation.

But, Silke, notice that he is not interested in protecting Americans with these proclamations, but protecting those who would be happy to slit American throats. And, interestingly, he still hasn’t come out today denouncing the leak of the secret info regarding the CIA detention centers. People went ballistic over Valerie Plan, but, no biggy over real secrets.

First, John, how was Bush supposed to protect people from a hurricane? It is a force of nature, it will come. Besides, it was the responsibility of the mayor and governor for most things prior, and the Army Corps of Engineers had been spending lots of money on the levies.

For 9/11, what was he supposed to do? They had little actionable intelligence. The only thing they could have done was massive profiling and searches at the airports. And you on the left would have pitched hissy fits over that.

And why am I not surprised that you are taking the position that it is America’s fault?

Yes, the President is obligated to protect the citizens of the United States but the oath he swore was to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. By ensuring our laws and principles are in line with capturing, questioning and detaining terrorists he is doing just that.

Our enemies all over the world are watching Obama and what they are witnessing is a president who is afraid of showing strength.

On the contrary. This is the ultimate show of strength.

As for our common defence, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals. Our founding fathers, faced with perils that we can scarcely imagine, drafted a charter to assure the rule of law and the rights of man, a charter expanded by the blood of generations. Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience’s sake.

We can keep America safe AND follow international law.