Comments on: Come On, Get AGW Active In 2009 http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/01/05/come-on-get-agw-active-in-2009/ If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:47:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Reasic http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/01/05/come-on-get-agw-active-in-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-121531 Reasic Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:48:15 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=6994#comment-121531 <blockquote>Concessus is not science. As has been said time and time again, at one point everyone agreed that the Earth was flat and the Universe revolved around the Earth. How’d that work out?</blockquote> Teach, I agree with you that consensus is not science. However, I do believe that a consensus can be built based upon the results of research in a particular field of science. It seems that you're switching things around here. Scientists have claimed to arrived at a reasonable amount of certainty on climate change <strong>based upon what their research</strong>, and you're making it sound as though they've consensus based on nothing, and called it science. That's very misleading. Also, you're two examples of previous "consensus" are not analogous. These were examples of a common understanding, based upon anecdotal evidence or ideology, which were later refuted by science. That's backwards from what we have today. Today, we have a common lack of understanding of man's role in climate change, resulting in the misperception that there is no correlation between the two, which has been refuted by a very large and growing body of scientific knowledge on the subject. As Silke pointed out, the only other reasonable explanation that's been given by "skeptics" is that the sun is causing the earth to heat up, but scientific evidence does not support that theory. The stratosphere would not be cooling if the was the source of the increase in the earth's temperature.

Concessus is not science. As has been said time and time again, at one point everyone agreed that the Earth was flat and the Universe revolved around the Earth. How’d that work out?

Teach, I agree with you that consensus is not science. However, I do believe that a consensus can be built based upon the results of research in a particular field of science. It seems that you’re switching things around here. Scientists have claimed to arrived at a reasonable amount of certainty on climate change based upon what their research, and you’re making it sound as though they’ve consensus based on nothing, and called it science. That’s very misleading.

Also, you’re two examples of previous “consensus” are not analogous. These were examples of a common understanding, based upon anecdotal evidence or ideology, which were later refuted by science. That’s backwards from what we have today. Today, we have a common lack of understanding of man’s role in climate change, resulting in the misperception that there is no correlation between the two, which has been refuted by a very large and growing body of scientific knowledge on the subject.

As Silke pointed out, the only other reasonable explanation that’s been given by “skeptics” is that the sun is causing the earth to heat up, but scientific evidence does not support that theory. The stratosphere would not be cooling if the was the source of the increase in the earth’s temperature.

]]> By: darthcrUSAderworldtour2007 http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/01/05/come-on-get-agw-active-in-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-121530 darthcrUSAderworldtour2007 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:02:02 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=6994#comment-121530 GOREON$ that represent the poor, eh? - Robbing Hood 2009! One more time for old times sake Teach: BUSH - 271 electoral votes Sorelosermen / Goreons - 266 The millionaire couldn't even carry Tennessee or Arkansas? Sad! GO NY GIANTS & Nj DEVILS!! GOREON$ that represent the poor, eh? – Robbing Hood 2009!
One more time for old times sake Teach:

BUSH – 271 electoral votes
Sorelosermen / Goreons – 266

The millionaire couldn’t even carry Tennessee or Arkansas? Sad!

GO NY GIANTS & Nj DEVILS!!

]]> By: John Ryan http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/01/05/come-on-get-agw-active-in-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-121527 John Ryan Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:03:24 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=6994#comment-121527 Al Gore has an estimated net worth of 100 million dollars. How important do you think money is to him at this point in his life ? As far as the poor people are concerned, of course their own personal carbon foot print is rather small when compared to the wealthy first world countries. As far as the CFL bulbs and mercury, exactly how much mercury do you believe will enter the enviorment because of them? Do you think that this amount will be more or less than the amount of mercury generated by coal fired power plants ? Al Gore has an estimated net worth of 100 million dollars. How important do you think money is to him at this point in his life ?
As far as the poor people are concerned, of course their own personal carbon foot print is rather small when compared to the wealthy first world countries.
As far as the CFL bulbs and mercury, exactly how much mercury do you believe will enter the enviorment because of them? Do you think that this amount will be more or less than the amount of mercury generated by coal fired power plants ?

]]> By: Silke http://www.thepiratescove.us/2009/01/05/come-on-get-agw-active-in-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-121526 Silke Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:38:15 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=6994#comment-121526 <b>Teach said: Concessus is not science.</b> You’re right consensus is not science. Science relies on evidence. The IPCC’s 2007 Fourth Assessment Report is a summary of the scientific evidence supporting AGW. There are many factors (both human and natural) that affect climate. These factors have unique signatures. One signature is the pattern of warming in the atmosphere. Decades of data from satellites and weather balloons show that the lower atmosphere, or troposphere, has warmed while the upper atmosphere, or stratosphere, has cooled. If a change in the sun’s output were responsible for the current warming trend, the atmosphere should have warmed from the stratosphere to the surface. That's contrary to what's observed. Greenhouse gases, however, do not produce a uniform warming. They warm the troposphere and cool the stratosphere. http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-chapter9.pdf Teach said: Concessus is not science.

You’re right consensus is not science. Science relies on evidence.

The IPCC’s 2007 Fourth Assessment Report is a summary of the scientific evidence supporting AGW.

There are many factors (both human and natural) that affect climate. These factors have unique signatures. One signature is the pattern of warming in the atmosphere. Decades of data from satellites and weather balloons show that the lower atmosphere, or troposphere, has warmed while the upper atmosphere, or stratosphere, has cooled. If a change in the sun’s output were responsible for the current warming trend, the atmosphere should have warmed from the stratosphere to the surface. That’s contrary to what’s observed. Greenhouse gases, however, do not produce a uniform warming. They warm the troposphere and cool the stratosphere.

http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-chapter9.pdf

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