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	<title>Comments on: Surrender Monkey Friday: Times Loves Dem Detainees!</title>
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		<title>By: darthcrUSAderworldtour2007</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2008/06/13/surrender-monkey-friday-times-loves-dem-detainees/comment-page-1/#comment-117923</link>
		<dc:creator>darthcrUSAderworldtour2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 05:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Release these 270 islamofascist butchers to the 19 Blue States of Socialism! A non-pork cookout at Ryans apartment? How about at Ground Zero? The lunes in these blue states are loonier than KLM and islamo incorporated!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Release these 270 islamofascist butchers to the 19 Blue States of Socialism! A non-pork cookout at Ryans apartment? How about at Ground Zero? The lunes in these blue states are loonier than KLM and islamo incorporated!!</p>
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		<title>By: William Teach</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it depends on your definition of torture is. Sleep deprivation, hot/cold, barking dogs, and loud music do not consitute torture to me. And, before you get going on waterboarding, it was done a grand total of 3 times to high value subjects. Hell, our own troops in some positions go thru it.

So far, I am still waiting for a better idea then Gitmo and holding these people from Democrats. Nothing but pontification with no plans, otherwise known as whining. 

But, no, they do not deserve Geneva Convention rights. They were not fighting for a government that was a signatury to the GC. They were not fighting in uniforms, making them enemy combatants, and, we are allowed by the GC to detain all of them caught on the battlefield for the duration of the conflict.

If we accord them POW status, we can also hold them for the duration.

Hell, these guys are eating better then they ever did. Their medical treatment is better then they ever go.

So, let&#039;s say we trie them in court. They are found guilty. They go right back to a military holding facility.

What do you suggest we do with them? When we release some, they go back out and fight. And it isn&#039;t because we made them mad. They were already part of the Islamic extremist movement and hated us, not to mention all non-Islamic civilization, and fought against us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it depends on your definition of torture is. Sleep deprivation, hot/cold, barking dogs, and loud music do not consitute torture to me. And, before you get going on waterboarding, it was done a grand total of 3 times to high value subjects. Hell, our own troops in some positions go thru it.</p>
<p>So far, I am still waiting for a better idea then Gitmo and holding these people from Democrats. Nothing but pontification with no plans, otherwise known as whining. </p>
<p>But, no, they do not deserve Geneva Convention rights. They were not fighting for a government that was a signatury to the GC. They were not fighting in uniforms, making them enemy combatants, and, we are allowed by the GC to detain all of them caught on the battlefield for the duration of the conflict.</p>
<p>If we accord them POW status, we can also hold them for the duration.</p>
<p>Hell, these guys are eating better then they ever did. Their medical treatment is better then they ever go.</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s say we trie them in court. They are found guilty. They go right back to a military holding facility.</p>
<p>What do you suggest we do with them? When we release some, they go back out and fight. And it isn&#8217;t because we made them mad. They were already part of the Islamic extremist movement and hated us, not to mention all non-Islamic civilization, and fought against us.</p>
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		<title>By: Bananaphone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bananaphone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William: So it&#039;s okay to torture them when they aren&#039;t Americans?  We took them in our custody, we have restricted their freedoms and movement, so they deserve the same basic rights guaranteed by the Geneva Convention.

Several of the detainees are children.  I&#039;m not so sure about that &quot;caught on the battlefield&quot; for some of them.  One of the adult detainees was held as a terrorist because someone said their friend was a suicide bomber (a big surprise to the &quot;terrorist&quot;, the German government, and the &quot;suicide bomber&quot; friend, who is alive and currently living in Germany).  Sounds to me like these charges need a bit more oversight than they&#039;ve been receiving to date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William: So it&#8217;s okay to torture them when they aren&#8217;t Americans?  We took them in our custody, we have restricted their freedoms and movement, so they deserve the same basic rights guaranteed by the Geneva Convention.</p>
<p>Several of the detainees are children.  I&#8217;m not so sure about that &#8220;caught on the battlefield&#8221; for some of them.  One of the adult detainees was held as a terrorist because someone said their friend was a suicide bomber (a big surprise to the &#8220;terrorist&#8221;, the German government, and the &#8220;suicide bomber&#8221; friend, who is alive and currently living in Germany).  Sounds to me like these charges need a bit more oversight than they&#8217;ve been receiving to date.</p>
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		<title>By: darthcrUSAderworldtour2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>darthcrUSAderworldtour2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Nazis that hung (and deservedly so) at Nuremburg in 1946 should have been muzzies, for they would have been given gourmet meals, soccer balls, prayer rugs and beads... SIEG HEIL, JA VOL? And most of the Nazi saboteurs that came ashore on Long Island and Florida in 1942 were ELECTROCUTED by Democrat FDR, eh? Release them to the HOUSE OF CONGRESS on house arrest!!! They&#039;ll be great baby sitters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Nazis that hung (and deservedly so) at Nuremburg in 1946 should have been muzzies, for they would have been given gourmet meals, soccer balls, prayer rugs and beads&#8230; SIEG HEIL, JA VOL? And most of the Nazi saboteurs that came ashore on Long Island and Florida in 1942 were ELECTROCUTED by Democrat FDR, eh? Release them to the HOUSE OF CONGRESS on house arrest!!! They&#8217;ll be great baby sitters?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love those ACLU types who can&#039;t imagine why terrorists shouldn&#039;t be treated in the same way that American citizens are, except of course that they are terrorists and not American citizens.  But such breath taking idiocy shouldn&#039;t be unexpected from a group of people that airvbrush history.  

During WWII the US dealt with German troops who violated the rules of war summarily.  NO access to US courts, no gourmet meals, no ACLU.  

In fact captured troops have never had access to US courts, so we now get to see that we live not in a representative democracy but an autocracy of five unelected loons.

Perhaps one of the many progressives can point out where in the Constitution and the 200 plus years of case law that supports the Supreme Jesters decision.

Just another example of why our government needs to be torn down and started again, after the lawyers and academics are dealt with in a Shakesperian manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love those ACLU types who can&#8217;t imagine why terrorists shouldn&#8217;t be treated in the same way that American citizens are, except of course that they are terrorists and not American citizens.  But such breath taking idiocy shouldn&#8217;t be unexpected from a group of people that airvbrush history.  </p>
<p>During WWII the US dealt with German troops who violated the rules of war summarily.  NO access to US courts, no gourmet meals, no ACLU.  </p>
<p>In fact captured troops have never had access to US courts, so we now get to see that we live not in a representative democracy but an autocracy of five unelected loons.</p>
<p>Perhaps one of the many progressives can point out where in the Constitution and the 200 plus years of case law that supports the Supreme Jesters decision.</p>
<p>Just another example of why our government needs to be torn down and started again, after the lawyers and academics are dealt with in a Shakesperian manner.</p>
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		<title>By: William Teach</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Half the fun in blogging is being sensational! :)

As far as gulags go, these are not our own citizens, but al Qaeda members caught on the battlefield in Afghanistan, a military action those on the left supposedly approved of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Half the fun in blogging is being sensational! <img src='http://www.thepiratescove.us/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As far as gulags go, these are not our own citizens, but al Qaeda members caught on the battlefield in Afghanistan, a military action those on the left supposedly approved of.</p>
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		<title>By: NEWS &#38; OPINION ROUNDUP (13 JUNE 2008) FRIDAY THE 13TH EDITION &#124; Democrat=Socialist</title>
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		<dc:creator>NEWS &#38; OPINION ROUNDUP (13 JUNE 2008) FRIDAY THE 13TH EDITION &#124; Democrat=Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Let&#8217;s not forget about surrender monkey. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Let&#8217;s not forget about surrender monkey. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bananaphone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bananaphone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop being so sensational.  The courts insist that the military show their evidence against the people being held in Guantanimo.  If there is valid evidence that indicates a person may be a terrorist, then there is a valid reason for detention.  The only way they would all go free is if the government had no evidence of guilt other than a name that was screamed out while someone was being tortured.......but that couldn&#039;t be the only proof they have, is it?

For people who scream about liberals be communists (nationalized health care being one thing that elicits said screams) it&#039;s amazing that you want to return to the gulags of Stalinist Russia so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop being so sensational.  The courts insist that the military show their evidence against the people being held in Guantanimo.  If there is valid evidence that indicates a person may be a terrorist, then there is a valid reason for detention.  The only way they would all go free is if the government had no evidence of guilt other than a name that was screamed out while someone was being tortured&#8230;&#8230;.but that couldn&#8217;t be the only proof they have, is it?</p>
<p>For people who scream about liberals be communists (nationalized health care being one thing that elicits said screams) it&#8217;s amazing that you want to return to the gulags of Stalinist Russia so much.</p>
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