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	<title>Comments on: San Fran Starts Its Plastic Bag Ban</title>
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		<title>By: John Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2007/11/19/san-fran-starts-its-plastic-bag-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-111552</link>
		<dc:creator>John Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s put the lead back in the gasoline !!!</description>
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		<title>By: William Teach</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2007/11/19/san-fran-starts-its-plastic-bag-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-111545</link>
		<dc:creator>William Teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You got that right, Perri. The tree hugger solutions do tend to lead to other, and sometimes worse, problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got that right, Perri. The tree hugger solutions do tend to lead to other, and sometimes worse, problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Perri Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2007/11/19/san-fran-starts-its-plastic-bag-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-111530</link>
		<dc:creator>Perri Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it amazing that the &quot;solutions&quot; to our environmental problems proposed to us turn out becoming environmental problems themselves?

Plastic bags were supposed to save trees... but the people that use them discard them like, well like garbage, and they aren&#039;t degradable.

Compact fluorescent lights are supposed to be good for the environment... they use less energy, yet that will come back to bit us too... they all contain a drop of mercury or they wouldn&#039;t work. Our light bulbs will have to be disposed of in hazardous waste disposal.

Government shouldn&#039;t force anything like this on us. Eventually we&#039;ll be told it was bad to use it, regardless of what it is.

What government aught to do with regard to the plastic bags is enforce anti-littering ordinances. And maybe use the incarcerated victims of those brutal policemen to clean up things so we don&#039;t have giant balls of floating plastic in our oceans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it amazing that the &#8220;solutions&#8221; to our environmental problems proposed to us turn out becoming environmental problems themselves?</p>
<p>Plastic bags were supposed to save trees&#8230; but the people that use them discard them like, well like garbage, and they aren&#8217;t degradable.</p>
<p>Compact fluorescent lights are supposed to be good for the environment&#8230; they use less energy, yet that will come back to bit us too&#8230; they all contain a drop of mercury or they wouldn&#8217;t work. Our light bulbs will have to be disposed of in hazardous waste disposal.</p>
<p>Government shouldn&#8217;t force anything like this on us. Eventually we&#8217;ll be told it was bad to use it, regardless of what it is.</p>
<p>What government aught to do with regard to the plastic bags is enforce anti-littering ordinances. And maybe use the incarcerated victims of those brutal policemen to clean up things so we don&#8217;t have giant balls of floating plastic in our oceans.</p>
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		<title>By: William Teach</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2007/11/19/san-fran-starts-its-plastic-bag-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-111523</link>
		<dc:creator>William Teach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have some good points there, David.

As far as the ball in the Pacific, I have to wonder why no one has, you know, tried to clean it up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have some good points there, David.</p>
<p>As far as the ball in the Pacific, I have to wonder why no one has, you know, tried to clean it up?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;tarting Tuesday, large grocery stores in the city can no longer use the traditional plastic bags...&quot;

*heh*

&quot;traditional&quot; *LOL*

Reminds me of how people speak of &quot;traditional values&quot; and such like. When a johnnie-come-lately like plastic bags can be viewed as &quot;tradition&quot; the nonsensical &quot;traditional values&quot; is revealed as the nonsense phrase it is. I only wonder when some &quot;traditional values&quot; political candidate will adopt the banning of plastic bags as a &quot;challenge to traditional values&quot; and spend a wealth of hot air bloviating about the collapse of society resulting from such a ban...

Still, plastic bags are another example of the silliness of burning petroleum products in our cars: there are much better uses for that oil. 

Like plastic bags.

(Of course, the meme that petrochemicals are a nonrenewable resource is coming under fire, recently. Quiet fire, granted--cos such research is anathema to greenies and petroleum execs alike. Still, the Earth may well not &quot;run out of oil&quot; for thousands of years, if ever, if some current research pans out as true... )

ANd that massive plastic bag mass in the Pacific? Surely someone can think of a USE for all that? Treat if as a handy, solar-powered  collection station and &lt;i&gt;mine&lt;/i&gt; it for the petrochemicals if nothing else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;tarting Tuesday, large grocery stores in the city can no longer use the traditional plastic bags&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>*heh*</p>
<p>&#8220;traditional&#8221; *LOL*</p>
<p>Reminds me of how people speak of &#8220;traditional values&#8221; and such like. When a johnnie-come-lately like plastic bags can be viewed as &#8220;tradition&#8221; the nonsensical &#8220;traditional values&#8221; is revealed as the nonsense phrase it is. I only wonder when some &#8220;traditional values&#8221; political candidate will adopt the banning of plastic bags as a &#8220;challenge to traditional values&#8221; and spend a wealth of hot air bloviating about the collapse of society resulting from such a ban&#8230;</p>
<p>Still, plastic bags are another example of the silliness of burning petroleum products in our cars: there are much better uses for that oil. </p>
<p>Like plastic bags.</p>
<p>(Of course, the meme that petrochemicals are a nonrenewable resource is coming under fire, recently. Quiet fire, granted&#8211;cos such research is anathema to greenies and petroleum execs alike. Still, the Earth may well not &#8220;run out of oil&#8221; for thousands of years, if ever, if some current research pans out as true&#8230; )</p>
<p>ANd that massive plastic bag mass in the Pacific? Surely someone can think of a USE for all that? Treat if as a handy, solar-powered  collection station and <i>mine</i> it for the petrochemicals if nothing else.</p>
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