Comments on: More Moonbat Waterboarding

By: Silke

Silke — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:51:59 +0000

Although this currently only applies to the military, I think the Army’s manual on Human Intelligence Collector Operations (FM 2-22.3/FM 34-52) is a good place to start:
http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm2-22-3.pdf

Current and former military leaders fervently reject the use of waterboarding and so does every soldier I know. These are the people actually fighting and dying in this war. Doesn’t that count for something?

By: William Teach

William Teach — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:39:56 +0000

So, if a terrorist is caught that can provide information to save thousands of American lives, what do YOU do? If you have a better method, let’s hear it.

By: Silke

Silke — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:23:40 +0000

Teach, waterboarding isn’t just simulated drowning it is actual drowning that is interrupted. It is controlled suffocation. Current and former top military legal officers in each of the military branches have testified before Congress that waterboarding constitutes torture:

http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200711/110207RetGeneralsOnMukasey.pdf

Having worked in intelligence I know there are other ways to get information. Intelligence professionals are very smart and resourceful. We don’t have to resort to immoral, illegal and unreliable practices to save lives.

Teach said: Funny how progressives are always living in the past, and making a huge deal out of things that are not even happening, or really relevant, anymore, eh?

Our government’s policy on torture is incredibly relevant since we will be fighting the War on Terror for a very long time. I’m sorry you don’t see it that way.

By: William Teach

William Teach — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:27:25 +0000

You are completely correct, Cao. It has not been used since 2003. Funny how progressives are always living in the past, and making a huge deal out of things that are not even happening, or really relevant, anymore, eh?

By: Cao

Cao — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:48:16 +0000

And that was back in …2003, if I recall correctly…

By: Cao

Cao — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:47:28 +0000

Waterboarding may offend yellow pansy sensibilities, but it’s not torture. The people objecting to this are a bunch of female marxists (Code Pink-o) who not only gave over $600,000 to the terrorists in Fallujah, but are now defending KSM. Waterboarding doesn’t inflict physical pain; it inflicts FEAR.

It’s quick, leaves no scars, and should revolt no one’s conscience.

The sole person other than US pilot trainees we know to have been waterboarded is Khalid Sheik Muhhamed. KSM broke within minutes, and he was waterboarded for his involvement in 9/11.

KSM proudly claims responsibility for the murder of close to 3,000 people. That being the case, it PLEASED ME to learn that he was WATERBOARDED, and he sang like a bird as a result.

By: Cao

Cao — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:38:54 +0000

Waterboarding has only been used three times in the entire duration of this war – so these complaints are not only stupid, they’re idiotic.

If they actually do get the result they’re looking for – making the person believe he’s drowning – he spills his guts.

I would like to see going back to the war department, beefing up our military and cutting all these socialist programs.

I’d like to go back to the days when destroying national security (e.g., the Rosenbergs) was worthy of execution, and when aiding and abetting the enemy in a time of war was treason and people were prosecuted for talking that way.

It shouldn’t only be Azzam the American who is brought up on treason charges…

By: darthcrUSAderworldtour2007

darthcrUSAderworldtour2007 — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 07:46:35 +0000

We tried waterboarding Tokyoyoyo Rosie O’Donnell but my Death Star II crew got hernias in the process. The US Senate could have bannished it months ago on the floor and did not. The Ryan types ignore throats being sliced, heads being chopped off and IED’s killing and crippling the innocent and our troops… way to go Ryan!

By: William Teach

William Teach — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:23:59 +0000

Interesting that neither of you will answer the question.

By: John Ryan

John Ryan — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:56:42 +0000

Torture is great, for extracting a confession. For anything else, such as finding the bomb with the flashing red numbers it does not work so well. The victim just gives the wrong address, then the torture stops.
However here is the best way for ALL to be happy with torture, you know when it is thought to be REALLY necessary.
Allow the torture to procede but then convict the torturer and give him oh say 5 years. If he is correct and saves 1000s of people he can at least have that feel good feeling while doing his time. And of course EVERYONE does realize that some innocent men do get put in prison.
This would also substantially reduce the use of torture as no one would be willing to go to jail unless he were really certain that these ends would justify these means.
Now Teach I ask you, would you be willing to torture ?