Comments on: Global Warming Today: Ca. Fires Confirmed As Climate Change http://www.thepiratescove.us/2007/11/03/global-warming-today-ca-fires-confirmed-as-climate-change/ If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:32:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Silke http://www.thepiratescove.us/2007/11/03/global-warming-today-ca-fires-confirmed-as-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-110912 Silke Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:08:41 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=4703#comment-110912 Sorry about the double post. For some reason I thought my original response got lost. Sorry about the double post. For some reason I thought my original response got lost.

]]> By: Silke http://www.thepiratescove.us/2007/11/03/global-warming-today-ca-fires-confirmed-as-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-110898 Silke Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:58:17 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=4703#comment-110898 <b>Teach said: The IPCC is a beauracratic document.</b> While it is true the summaries of the reports are agreed between scientists and representatives of governments, the evidence for the reports is supplied by scientists. The latest assessment is a testament to the vast amount of scientific observations which has been undertaken in recent years. Twenty-nine thousand real-world observations were included in the analysis. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6524325.stm <b>Teach said: why is this slight warming trend any different from billions of years of history?</b> The Fourth Assessment Report describes warming and cooling effects on the planet in terms of radiative forcing — the rate at which energy is being added to the system, measured as power per unit area (in SI units, W/m²). The report shows in detail the individual warming contributions of carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, halocarbons, other human warming factors, and the warming effects of changes in solar activity. Also shown are the cooling effects of aerosols, land-use changes, and other human activities. All values are shown as a change from pre-industrial conditions. • Total radiative forcing from the sum of all human activities is a warming force of about 1.6 watts/m2 • Radiative forcing from an increase of solar intensity since 1750 is about 0.12 watts/m2 • Radiative forcing from carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide combined is very likely (>90%) increasing more quickly during the current era (1750-present) than at any other time in the last 10,000 years. You can read all the evidence for yourself here: http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/wg1-report.html <b>Teach said: Why do those, including yourself, who believe it is all Man’s fault fail to live the life?</b> As I’ve stated many times before I do live the life as best I can. I am not asking anyone else to do something I’m not willing to do. What else should I be doing that I’m not? Teach said: The IPCC is a beauracratic document.
While it is true the summaries of the reports are agreed between scientists and representatives of governments, the evidence for the reports is supplied by scientists. The latest assessment is a testament to the vast amount of scientific observations which has been undertaken in recent years. Twenty-nine thousand real-world observations were included in the analysis.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6524325.stm

Teach said: why is this slight warming trend any different from billions of years of history?
The Fourth Assessment Report describes warming and cooling effects on the planet in terms of radiative forcing — the rate at which energy is being added to the system, measured as power per unit area (in SI units, W/m²). The report shows in detail the individual warming contributions of carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, halocarbons, other human warming factors, and the warming effects of changes in solar activity. Also shown are the cooling effects of aerosols, land-use changes, and other human activities. All values are shown as a change from pre-industrial conditions.
• Total radiative forcing from the sum of all human activities is a warming force of about 1.6 watts/m2
• Radiative forcing from an increase of solar intensity since 1750 is about 0.12 watts/m2
• Radiative forcing from carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide combined is very likely (>90%) increasing more quickly during the current era (1750-present) than at any other time in the last 10,000 years.
You can read all the evidence for yourself here: http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/wg1-report.html

Teach said: Why do those, including yourself, who believe it is all Man’s fault fail to live the life?

As I’ve stated many times before I do live the life as best I can. I am not asking anyone else to do something I’m not willing to do. What else should I be doing that I’m not?

]]> By: Silke http://www.thepiratescove.us/2007/11/03/global-warming-today-ca-fires-confirmed-as-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-110897 Silke Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:51:34 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=4703#comment-110897 1. While it is true that the IPCC’s summaries of its reports are agreed between scientists and representatives of governments, the evidence for the reports is supplied by scientists. The latest assessment contained a vast amount of scientific observations which have been undertaken in recent years. Twenty-nine thousand real-world observations were included in the analysis. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6524325.stm Here is what the analysis tells us: The Fourth Assessment Report describes warming and cooling effects on the planet in terms of radiative forcing — the rate at which energy is being added to the system, measured as power per unit area (in SI units, W/m²). The report shows in detail the individual warming contributions of carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, halocarbons, other human warming factors, and the warming effects of changes in solar activity. Also shown are the cooling effects of aerosols, land-use changes, and other human activities. All values are shown as a change from pre-industrial conditions. Total radiative forcing from the sum of all human activities is a warming force of about 1.6 watts/m2 Radiative forcing from an increase of solar intensity since 1750 is about 0.12 watts/m2 Radiative forcing from carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide combined is very likely (>90%) increasing more quickly during the current era (1750-present) than at any other time in the last 10,000 years. 2. As I’ve explained before I do live the life as best I can. I am not asking others to do more than I do. What else should I be doing that I am not? Please tell me. 1. While it is true that the IPCC’s summaries of its reports are agreed between scientists and representatives of governments, the evidence for the reports is supplied by scientists. The latest assessment contained a vast amount of scientific observations which have been undertaken in recent years. Twenty-nine thousand real-world observations were included in the analysis.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6524325.stm

Here is what the analysis tells us:
The Fourth Assessment Report describes warming and cooling effects on the planet in terms of radiative forcing — the rate at which energy is being added to the system, measured as power per unit area (in SI units, W/m²). The report shows in detail the individual warming contributions of carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, halocarbons, other human warming factors, and the warming effects of changes in solar activity. Also shown are the cooling effects of aerosols, land-use changes, and other human activities. All values are shown as a change from pre-industrial conditions.
Total radiative forcing from the sum of all human activities is a warming force of about 1.6 watts/m2
Radiative forcing from an increase of solar intensity since 1750 is about 0.12 watts/m2
Radiative forcing from carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide combined is very likely (>90%) increasing more quickly during the current era (1750-present) than at any other time in the last 10,000 years.

2. As I’ve explained before I do live the life as best I can. I am not asking others to do more than I do. What else should I be doing that I am not? Please tell me.

]]> By: William Teach http://www.thepiratescove.us/2007/11/03/global-warming-today-ca-fires-confirmed-as-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-110895 William Teach Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:07:42 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=4703#comment-110895 Why should I, when you haven't? The IPCC is a beauracratic document. And, I will repeat 2 often stated things: 1. why is this slight warming trend any different from billions of years of history? 2. Why do those, including yourself, who believe it is all Man's fault fail to live the life? Why should I, when you haven’t? The IPCC is a beauracratic document. And, I will repeat 2 often stated things:

1. why is this slight warming trend any different from billions of years of history?

2. Why do those, including yourself, who believe it is all Man’s fault fail to live the life?

]]> By: Silke http://www.thepiratescove.us/2007/11/03/global-warming-today-ca-fires-confirmed-as-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-110890 Silke Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:46:12 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=4703#comment-110890 Teach, all of the natural factors you mentioned have been considered, measured and factored into the current understanding of climate change. The IPCC’s Fourth Assessment Report has the most recent information and Working Group I provides an extensive report on the physical science basis of climate change. Even if you don’t agree with the conclusions you can at least see what studies they used to arrive at their conclusions. Can you provide any scientific studies (not just your opinion) that would lead to a different conclusion? http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/wg1-report.html Teach, all of the natural factors you mentioned have been considered, measured and factored into the current understanding of climate change. The IPCC’s Fourth Assessment Report has the most recent information and Working Group I provides an extensive report on the physical science basis of climate change. Even if you don’t agree with the conclusions you can at least see what studies they used to arrive at their conclusions. Can you provide any scientific studies (not just your opinion) that would lead to a different conclusion?

http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/wg1-report.html

]]> By: Scrapiron http://www.thepiratescove.us/2007/11/03/global-warming-today-ca-fires-confirmed-as-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-110871 Scrapiron Sat, 03 Nov 2007 23:24:01 +0000 http://www.thepiratescove.us/?p=4703#comment-110871 The extreme inviro's aren't totally at fault. They are a tool used by the democrats who fight every tool that can be used to fight forest fires and the same fools appoint the brain dead judges that side with the enviro whacko's that are financed by the democrats. All in all it's the democrats that burned Calif. The extreme inviro’s aren’t totally at fault. They are a tool used by the democrats who fight every tool that can be used to fight forest fires and the same fools appoint the brain dead judges that side with the enviro whacko’s that are financed by the democrats. All in all it’s the democrats that burned Calif.

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