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	<title>Comments on: Censure Russ Feingold</title>
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		<title>By: Ron A. Zajac</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2006/03/13/censure-russ-feingold/comment-page-2/#comment-4520</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron A. Zajac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really comes down to the simple question of whether Bush did or did not break the law.  If he broke the law, deal with it.  Or not.  Let&#039;s find out who actually cares about what little is left of the American legacy that we *can* be proud of, a powerful signal to send to our enemies:  We The People of this country don&#039;t take unconstitutional shit off our leaders.  Top *that*, bin Laden!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really comes down to the simple question of whether Bush did or did not break the law.  If he broke the law, deal with it.  Or not.  Let&#8217;s find out who actually cares about what little is left of the American legacy that we *can* be proud of, a powerful signal to send to our enemies:  We The People of this country don&#8217;t take unconstitutional shit off our leaders.  Top *that*, bin Laden!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2006/03/13/censure-russ-feingold/comment-page-1/#comment-4516</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still waiting for an answer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still waiting for an answer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom R</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2006/03/13/censure-russ-feingold/comment-page-1/#comment-4510</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, in the list of crimes, I forgot to mention the looting of the American Treasury by Republican companies and particularly Cheney&#039;s Halliburton and KBR, with non-competitive, above-market contracts in New Orleans, Iraq and Afghanistant that have literally taken billions from taxpayer&#039;s pockets and into the hands of Cheney and his associates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, in the list of crimes, I forgot to mention the looting of the American Treasury by Republican companies and particularly Cheney&#8217;s Halliburton and KBR, with non-competitive, above-market contracts in New Orleans, Iraq and Afghanistant that have literally taken billions from taxpayer&#8217;s pockets and into the hands of Cheney and his associates.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom R</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2006/03/13/censure-russ-feingold/comment-page-1/#comment-4509</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Almost everyone I know supports not just the censure but the impeachment of George W. Bush, for lying to Congress and the nation and putting American soldiers in harm&#039;s for no gain to America whatsoever.

It&#039;s hard to imagine someone doing a worse job on terrorism than this President.  We&#039;ve had two major terrorist attacks on the United States(*);  not only didn&#039;t we catch either of the perpetrators of these foul crimes, but we didn&#039;t change the system that allowed them to happen, or punish even one of the officials whose dereliction of duty cost this country so much.

Censure now, impeach later.  Iraq, Katrina, 9/11, Afghanistan, torture, spying on Americans, compulsive lying:  each of these alone is worth a trial.  Together, the systematic pattern of fraud and incompetence makes a case that&#039;s impossible to refute.

(* -- give up on what the second one was?  Seems that everyone has forgotten the anthrax attacks of 2001 -- which isn&#039;t surprising considering that the media simply stopped talking about it when it was discovered that this was American-made, &quot;weapons-grade&quot; anthrax from Fort Detrick.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost everyone I know supports not just the censure but the impeachment of George W. Bush, for lying to Congress and the nation and putting American soldiers in harm&#8217;s for no gain to America whatsoever.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to imagine someone doing a worse job on terrorism than this President.  We&#8217;ve had two major terrorist attacks on the United States(*);  not only didn&#8217;t we catch either of the perpetrators of these foul crimes, but we didn&#8217;t change the system that allowed them to happen, or punish even one of the officials whose dereliction of duty cost this country so much.</p>
<p>Censure now, impeach later.  Iraq, Katrina, 9/11, Afghanistan, torture, spying on Americans, compulsive lying:  each of these alone is worth a trial.  Together, the systematic pattern of fraud and incompetence makes a case that&#8217;s impossible to refute.</p>
<p>(* &#8212; give up on what the second one was?  Seems that everyone has forgotten the anthrax attacks of 2001 &#8212; which isn&#8217;t surprising considering that the media simply stopped talking about it when it was discovered that this was American-made, &#8220;weapons-grade&#8221; anthrax from Fort Detrick.)</p>
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		<title>By: Hanna Karolyn</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2006/03/13/censure-russ-feingold/comment-page-1/#comment-4508</link>
		<dc:creator>Hanna Karolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A censure of Bush is the MINIMUM we can do to set this incredibly ignorant and ineffectual &quot;leader&quot; on the road back to Texas. Yet all we hear from the right is that the violations of the constitutional rights of Americans is now necessary to safeguard us from what?...what&#039;s that?...oh yes, terrorism, of course (our boogeyman now that the Soviets had the gall to dissolve themselves, leaving us temporarily without a mortal enemy).

I challenge any of you fearful war-mongers to tell me how a well-financed terrorist organization of a couple of thousand members can threaten the nation to such an extent that an extraordinary and unprecedented consolidation of power in the executive and the violation of political rights and civil liberties (apart from the lies, corruption and abuse of power that seem to go hand-in-hand with these other actions) are necessary compared to, say, the Cold War where we faced the old Soviet Union with its sophisticated intelligence infrastructure, modern military and nuclear weapons that could (and we did come to the brink) wipe us off the map in a matter of minutes?  Or how it compares to World War II where both Japan and Germany-two of the largest economies and military powers in the world at the time-were dedicated to our destruction and waged total war against us?

This is simply a power grab under the guise of &quot;national security,&quot; and if you trust the Feds on this...you ain&#039;t no conservative!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A censure of Bush is the MINIMUM we can do to set this incredibly ignorant and ineffectual &#8220;leader&#8221; on the road back to Texas. Yet all we hear from the right is that the violations of the constitutional rights of Americans is now necessary to safeguard us from what?&#8230;what&#8217;s that?&#8230;oh yes, terrorism, of course (our boogeyman now that the Soviets had the gall to dissolve themselves, leaving us temporarily without a mortal enemy).</p>
<p>I challenge any of you fearful war-mongers to tell me how a well-financed terrorist organization of a couple of thousand members can threaten the nation to such an extent that an extraordinary and unprecedented consolidation of power in the executive and the violation of political rights and civil liberties (apart from the lies, corruption and abuse of power that seem to go hand-in-hand with these other actions) are necessary compared to, say, the Cold War where we faced the old Soviet Union with its sophisticated intelligence infrastructure, modern military and nuclear weapons that could (and we did come to the brink) wipe us off the map in a matter of minutes?  Or how it compares to World War II where both Japan and Germany-two of the largest economies and military powers in the world at the time-were dedicated to our destruction and waged total war against us?</p>
<p>This is simply a power grab under the guise of &#8220;national security,&#8221; and if you trust the Feds on this&#8230;you ain&#8217;t no conservative!</p>
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		<title>By: shingles</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2006/03/13/censure-russ-feingold/comment-page-1/#comment-4507</link>
		<dc:creator>shingles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh Pirate:

When Americans excercise their freedom and/or try to uphold the rule of law, THE TERRORISTS WIN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh Pirate:</p>
<p>When Americans excercise their freedom and/or try to uphold the rule of law, THE TERRORISTS WIN!</p>
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		<title>By: Fiskhus Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2006/03/13/censure-russ-feingold/comment-page-1/#comment-4506</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiskhus Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You lie.  I support Russ.  I said I did before you said you couldn&#039;t hear anyone on the left supporting him.

Maybe if you&#039;d use your new Medicare Plan B benefit to get some eardrops, you could remove that big ol&#039; plug of GOP earwax you can&#039;t hear though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You lie.  I support Russ.  I said I did before you said you couldn&#8217;t hear anyone on the left supporting him.</p>
<p>Maybe if you&#8217;d use your new Medicare Plan B benefit to get some eardrops, you could remove that big ol&#8217; plug of GOP earwax you can&#8217;t hear though.</p>
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		<title>By: Not As Crazy As You</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2006/03/13/censure-russ-feingold/comment-page-1/#comment-4505</link>
		<dc:creator>Not As Crazy As You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teach, you keep harkening back to you &quot;Have you guys got a better idea?&quot; line, but the whole point of this post is whether or not Feingold was right in calling for a censure of the President.  The domestic spying program is definitely unconstitutional, there is definitely something shady about a President supporting warrentless spying and lying about it for years, and a censure is definitely in order.  As for &quot;burden of proof&quot;, none is actually necessary for Congressional censure.  It is a slap on the wrist, a merely symbolic way Congress has to tell the President that he&#039;s on thin ice.  The fact that our Congressmen cannot even do that shows just how craven they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teach, you keep harkening back to you &#8220;Have you guys got a better idea?&#8221; line, but the whole point of this post is whether or not Feingold was right in calling for a censure of the President.  The domestic spying program is definitely unconstitutional, there is definitely something shady about a President supporting warrentless spying and lying about it for years, and a censure is definitely in order.  As for &#8220;burden of proof&#8221;, none is actually necessary for Congressional censure.  It is a slap on the wrist, a merely symbolic way Congress has to tell the President that he&#8217;s on thin ice.  The fact that our Congressmen cannot even do that shows just how craven they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Railroad Stone</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2006/03/13/censure-russ-feingold/comment-page-1/#comment-4465</link>
		<dc:creator>Railroad Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This blog is a joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog is a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim H.</title>
		<link>http://www.thepiratescove.us/2006/03/13/censure-russ-feingold/comment-page-1/#comment-4445</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice that the attack on Feingold here, and throughout the Republican party, is of the nature of sayng he&#039;s a traitor. He&#039;s &quot;objectively aiding&quot; the terrorists. The last time I remember seeing such hysterical logic was in the &#039;60s, when I was debating communists. 

It&#039;s a cut and dried legal case. If Bush found, honestly, that FISA was insufficient in these times, it would have been easy, in the immediate post-9/11 days, to get the act expanded or even thrown out, I suppose (which would have been a bad thing, to me). But he didn&#039;t do that. Instead, he pretended to be following the FISA act, having sent lots of requests to the court all this time. He also said, numerous times, that wiretaps were only happening &quot;with a warrant,&quot; which he then admitted to us, was not true for years. So it was a purposeful and deliberate deception of Congress and the American people. If Congress lets this stand, they&#039;re fools; and I would say the same for the cowardly Dems who refuse to cosign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice that the attack on Feingold here, and throughout the Republican party, is of the nature of sayng he&#8217;s a traitor. He&#8217;s &#8220;objectively aiding&#8221; the terrorists. The last time I remember seeing such hysterical logic was in the &#8217;60s, when I was debating communists. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a cut and dried legal case. If Bush found, honestly, that FISA was insufficient in these times, it would have been easy, in the immediate post-9/11 days, to get the act expanded or even thrown out, I suppose (which would have been a bad thing, to me). But he didn&#8217;t do that. Instead, he pretended to be following the FISA act, having sent lots of requests to the court all this time. He also said, numerous times, that wiretaps were only happening &#8220;with a warrant,&#8221; which he then admitted to us, was not true for years. So it was a purposeful and deliberate deception of Congress and the American people. If Congress lets this stand, they&#8217;re fools; and I would say the same for the cowardly Dems who refuse to cosign.</p>
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